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iiigarcia
Posted Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:29AM
In times of industrial revolution came the concern about the position of the professional roles they would play people against the machines.
Today, that debate is still open and live two markets: The first people work according to the standards of first world and the second continues the traditional market. The first third-world abuses.

Today istockphoto asks us to forget the work of the designer. Now we are asked to open our eyes to what is coming. Designers you will be expendable in a very short time. The world no longer needs you now. Now we have Internet.

Istockphoto seems ironic that we ask the designers who will help dig our own grave.

To respond honestly to what istockphoto and asks me to provide quality work, I should work hard:


- Time to explore possible commercial sectors requiring this type of product.

- Time to study graphic image more suitable for these sectors.

- Time to create models whose modulation allow logos to be used for different lengths of text in the trademark or company name.

- Time to learn and adapt to the restrictions imposed by istockphoto.

- Time and space to archive the original copies of my designs and documentation demonstrating legitimate use of the elements used in the design (copyright).

In a year would work 400 hours to deliver 20 to 30 high quality logos. I think that having luck could win 2000 Euros. I think the price too low to contribute to ending the occupation that I exercise for 25 years. Especially when I was painting my house yesterday. In 7 hours I saved 1500 Euros (in Spain is the price charged for a painter to paint the walls of your apartment).

I think istockphoto should rethink the type of collaboration that designers demand. At this moment we only have two options:

1 .- Create many, many, many logos very quickly and very poor quality. (I'm talking about design 40 logos in one morning.)
This is easy for a designer.

2 .- Working as quality inspectors logos istockphoto receives. Of course looking at the logo only from a formal point of view. We make money on the basis of our performance comes to the select: (If istockpho sells best logos I select, I make more money. And, of course, enough money.)

IStockphoto do you prefer me to do?

NOTE: Sorry for not knowing how to speak English. Thanks to google translator.
jscottphilipsCLOSED
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Posted Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:57PM
Can't support this. It's a terrible idea. Thanks for taking my job away from me iStock.
digitalsquares
Posted Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:37AM
Looks like I need to find a new site for purchasing images. There is no way I can support a site that is degrading a profession that many of us earn a living out of. Thanks but No thanks istock.
SoopySue
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Posted Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:08AM
Posted By digitalsquares:
Looks like I need to find a new site for purchasing images. There is no way I can support a site that is degrading a profession that many of us earn a living out of. Thanks but No thanks istock.

You'll be looking for a long time. Just try 'logo' on the other micros.
Pixel-Pizzazz
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Posted Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:05PM

Posted By SoopySue:
Posted By digitalsquares:
Looks like I need to find a new site for purchasing images. There is no way I can support a site that is degrading a profession that many of us earn a living out of. Thanks but No thanks istock.

You'll be looking for a long time. Just try 'logo' on the other micros.

And then look at their TOS for usage and realize they are not advocating logos that can be trademarked...
They still forbid such usage. That is the key difference.
Logo does not always mean logo in the literal sense - even Istock has had that problem in the past by using the term while at the same time forbidding such literal usage.
To say other sites are ALSO selling logos is taking it out of context.
thebluepipecom
Posted Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:04PM

Shouldn't fonts be included.. If i make a logo and I put a generic company name and subtitle wouldn't the client want to change that from 'Mike's diaper company' to whatever the buyer's company name is?


I'm sure some1 must have mentioned that in all these 1945 replies


 


 
franschiavo
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Posted Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:31AM

Regarding the name change... I think there are two types of clients - those who understand how a logo will look with their name instead of the sample name and those who have no clue.  I once had a client who loved the "swirly W" on a logo and wanted something like that for their logo - although their company name started with a T.  


As a designer, once you are involved in changing a file, you're into a consulting process.  If a client wants me to change a sample logo with a short, one-word name into a customized logo with a longer two-word name I'm not simply going to substitute the company name. Other changes will be needed to bring the logo into balance. 


If the client understands all these issues, then likely the client is a designer or has a designer he or she works with.  


If the client doesn't understand these issues, then likely one or more iterations and discussions need to take place to have a successful outcome. And likely the client will want to see what a logo looks like with his company name before deciding whether to purchase. 


What about a set price for the logo as posted (client makes the changes) and the same set price for the logo with the company name included (client pre-pays istock, istock contacts the designer, designer provides logo to istock). Designers would have to opt in to the second arrangement and have a way to keep an updated status regarding turn-around time.  For example - I might be able to guarantee 48-hour turnaround on a normal basis, but would need a way to suspend services when on vacation.  


 


 


 
jdelsordi
Posted Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:24PM
What about logos designed in Photoshop? Will they be accepted? Or only vector?
Lobo
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Posted Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:25PM
Vector files – iStock logos will be downloaded as fully editable .eps files.

(Edited on 2009-10-27 12:26:11 by Lobo)
CHRISTIANCHAMPAGNE
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Posted Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:26PM

yeah just wonderful. This is exactly what us advertising professionals need. The whole world is going to hell. I so wish there was a button we could push that would take us back to the 70's, and we could start all over, and be apart of a design process that had heart and soul in it.


logically for Istock, this is sort of the next step isnt it. Sad though. In the end, all this does is lower the bar in logo creation and its worth and hurt graphic designers.
mikemcd
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Posted Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:33PM
I still chalk this all up to a sign of the times that most sensible people will realize is not a true alternative to consulting work. This satisfies a different market, one full of customers who wouldn't pay for a consultant anyway. The market for real custom logo design work will still exist and real clients will still understand the need to hire someone to craft an identity. Those clients are the people who need to be hands-on with a designer, working through many iterations and concepts and refining a design to perfection. That sort of thing you can't get with an off-the-shelf logo design.

I don't have a problem with this new offering from istock because it won't impact my client work.
JJRD
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Posted Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:27PM

Posted By CHRISTIANCHAMPAGNE:

yeah just wonderful. This is exactly what us advertising professionals need. The whole world is going to hell. I so wish there was a button we could push that would take us back to the 70's, and we could start all over, and be apart of a design process that had heart and soul in it.


logically for Istock, this is sort of the next step isnt it. Sad though. In the end, all this does is lower the bar in logo creation and its worth and hurt graphic designers.


Let us be clear here : we do NOT believe it will hurt graphic designers... if we did, we would not have launched this new offering.

We believe there is a market for everything... and we believe that designers joining in & playing this game will simply find a. a new niche for their work and b. allow small companies to have a fair chance at getting a noble branding.

iStockphoto was created on the respect of both contributors and clients... we are now offering some designers who never played a chance to do so.

(Edited on 2009-10-27 19:43:48 by JJRD)
zlisjak
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Posted Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:50PM
Posted By JJRD:


Posted By CHRISTIANCHAMPAGNE:

yeah just wonderful. This is exactly what us advertising professionals need. The whole world is going to hell. I so wish there was a button we could push that would take us back to the 70's, and we could start all over, and be apart of a design process that had heart and soul in it.


logically for Istock, this is sort of the next step isnt it. Sad though. In the end, all this does is lower the bar in logo creation and its worth and hurt graphic designers.

Let us be clear here : we do NOT believe it will hurt graphic designers... if we did, we would not have launched this new offering.

We believe there is a market for everything... and we believe that designers joining in & playing this game will simply find a. a new niche for their work and b. allow small companies to have a fair chance at getting a noble branding.

iStockphoto was created on the respect of both contributors and clients... we are now offering some designers who never played a chance to do so. smile

(Edited on 2009-10-27 19:43:48 by JJRD)

Indeed, I am not a logo designer and I would most likely never have an an opportunity to work on one commercially if it weren't for iStock. But now, if I can make a few more bucks to put food on my family (Dubya ) while at the same time offer the buyer a quality product for the amount of money they are willing to spend, I see no harm in that. Those clients that need dozens of revisions and a number of meetings with the designer (hence the price difference) will still want it done custom, so the "real" logo designers should not feel threatened. If anything, you will lose one or two of those "nagging" customers who feel like they're being robbed by your prices (and considering the circumstances and the fact that all they need is an icon to go with their name, you kind of are), and you can always fill that spot with another customer who is willing to pay for your services and won't make you feel bad about it either...
sylvanworksCLOSED
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Posted Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:00PM
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