Posted Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:09AM
I recently submitted this photo and it was accepted, no problem there
but the title, description and keywords where altered. I had "Dodge Viper" in there, which it is... and it was replaced with "sports car". I have submitted others with the same words and they where not changed. Is this something new?
Posted Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:43AM
You owe a generous inspector a huge thank you. It's my speculation that they changed your title to something generic in your latest. It could have been subject to the guidelines of not being generic and rejected on those grounds. Oh, you might reconsider returning to your older images in your portfolio and retitle them. I'm sure that at a later date, it might be requested.
I wouldn't question. I'd be offering up thanks to someone
Posted Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:50AM
Why? I've seen other images on here with "corvette" or other car titles in the name. Putting or not putting "corvette" or "viper" in the title doesn't change what is in the image.
Posted Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:53AM
Because Corvette or Dodge and Viper are almost certainly trademarks and shouldn't be used other than by the trademark holder. I have a Lotus Elise in my portfolio but its labelled something like Red Sports Car. I do however have Lotus and Elise as keywords. I think this is okay...
Posted Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:01AM
Well, I'm sure they are, but you're not selling the name, you're decribing the image. Either it's a corvette or it isn't. There are four pages of corvettes, many with titles. Do a search on Viper. Saying "we know it's a corvette, but don't call attention to it by calling it that" seems a bit silly.
Anyways, this seems to be a grey area in the rulebook. Not to be antagonistic, but this would seem to be an unevenly applied invisible rule-ish type of thing.
Posted Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:03AM
Somebody else robbed the liquor store, didn't get caught, and didn't go to jail. Why do I have to go to jail?
Posted Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:09AM
No, that wasn't the point. He even had images that retained "Viper" in the title.
So, if showing something that is a recognizable entity, even if logos/names are removed, is it ok to label it as such in the description/title and keywords, to make the search easier for users, so they don't have to sift through 400 red cars? (long sentence) It's still a Viper, just not labeling it as such does not make it not an image of a Viper, ya know?
(Edited on 2005-01-19 09:14:46 by sjlocke)
Posted Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:28AM
Well, with 194753 images currently in the library, and a couple barrels of inspectors, it must be tough to catch everything.
Posted Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:31AM
Sean, I'd say the keyword and title police are busy at the moment.
istock is gearing towards erring on the side of caution as they grow more prolific.
Your point of inclusion in keywords is relevant. I'd post that in the policy forum to get an answer or even email Support and yes, I'd like to know the answer to that one myself.
Posted Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:40AM
... if words have been taken out, do not put them back in...
Posted Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:33AM
I'm not really complaining as much as I am just asking as this has never happened before. As you can see I did not go in and change it back. I figured there was a reason. Just didn't know what it was. If I need to remove trademarked names like Dodge, Viper, Magnum, Hummer, H2, MATCHBOX, etc... from my titles and descriptions I will. At the same time I would ask that it be done by all to be fair. I would think that someone doing a search for a particular car, a Viper, would type that in and as long at it's in the keywords, it will still show, correct?
Personally, I could see the doing away with the title all together and sort searches by keyword relavence or newest, etc. That would eliminate people trying to stack their image titles in an effort to get theirs first in the list.
(Edited on 2005-01-19 10:43:28 by rjzinger)
Posted Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:57PM
I would think that someone doing a search for a particular car, a Viper, would type that in and as long at it's in the keywords, it will still show, correct?