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sylvanworksCLOSED
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Posted Tue Jun 7, 2005 4:14PM
On 2005-06-07 15:16:27, ranplett wrote:

A rotatable LCD screen attaches to the viewfinder of your slr camera, similar to swivel screens on point & shoot cameras. It's called Zigview. As a waste-level viewfinder, it should allow more intimate people shots, since you won't have the camera in front of your face.


That looks really clever! Here are some photos with it attached:

http://www.karlu.com/product_info.php?products_id=8764

Who will be the first kid on the block to get one?
Abshay
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Posted Tue Jun 7, 2005 4:41PM
At about $150 USD, it'll be a few more months before my istock earnings will pay for it. Looks really awesome though.
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Posted Tue Jun 7, 2005 5:23PM
I'd like to see one working before I spent the money. It seems rather cheap for a CCD sensor + LCD + all the circuitry etc.

I've a feeling they look better in the photos than they work, although I'd love to be proved wrong so I could buy one.
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Posted Tue Jun 7, 2005 5:41PM
pity they didn't make it so it could face forward or it would be fantastic for self portraits
ranplett
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Posted Tue Jun 7, 2005 5:49PM

I'd like to see one working before I spent the money. It seems rather cheap for a CCD sensor + LCD + all the circuitry etc.

I've a feeling they look better in the photos than they work, although I'd love to be proved wrong so I could buy one.


You nailed it there. Same here, though costwise, I think they are cheap to produce. Cheap Digital cameras 2-3MP with a fixed zoom lens cost less then $100.

I would expect it to cost more because it's a new product that will obviously sell (if decent quality).

Hopefully it will be a good alternative to Canon's angle finder, which magnifies the image 2x for manual focus accuracy.

I occasionally usea hasselblad 500 c/m which has a wastelevel finder. Perfect for shooting people, because you need to talk to them and make them feel comfortable / natural. With an SLR, you have to bring it right up to your eye, thus blocking any connection between you and your subject. So I'm really excited about htis.

Also, for the longest time, a big complaint with SLRs is there is no live preview. I think this product will make more people comfortable with DSLR's thus making them CHEAPER!!

ran
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Posted Tue Jun 7, 2005 8:42PM
"waste-level viewfinder" is my favorite typo of the week, for sure!
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Posted Tue Jun 7, 2005 9:18PM

"waste-level viewfinder" is my favorite typo of the week, for sure!


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
ranplett
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Posted Tue Jun 7, 2005 10:00PM
LOL, thanks Ken, for making me laugh!!
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Posted Tue Jun 7, 2005 10:07PM
This looks great, only bad thing about it is that it doesnt seem to swivel to any angle like the Canon G series cameras do. From the G2 all the way through to the G6 the swivel view finder could be moved to any angle as well as flipped forward so you can take self portraits.

I'll be keeping an eye on this thread to see if anyone has purchased it.

(Just a note as to why they are so cheap, they have been sold in Asia for quite a while now, so the initial costs of production have been absorbed by that market)
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Posted Wed Jun 8, 2005 12:42AM
This sounds like a terrific news...
As I just received and tested my 1st DSLR I admit I was astonished and disapointed to realise that the lcd monitor could not show the scene before capturing it...while cheap cameras like the G2 I used to have did it...
When you get used to lcd monitor preview it is hard to get rid of it... (on the other hand if you forget about this lcd restriction the 20D dslr I received
is Terrific... )

(Edited on 2005-06-08 00:54:18 by absolutely_frenchy)
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Posted Wed Jun 8, 2005 1:43AM
One more thing to add to that list of things to buy!

Good to hear your camera's arrived frenchy! I'm jealous of your new fangled technology. Ok, so that's two things to add to my shopping list. Expensive thread this one
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Posted Wed Jun 8, 2005 9:19AM
The zigview is getting a slamming on the DPreview forums (search on zigview or click here then press refresh when it gives a 403 forbidden)

(Edited on 2005-06-08 09:20:57 by Sirimo)
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Posted Wed Jun 8, 2005 9:24AM
Ohh and lastly I hope Canon bring out their own version of the Contax FE-1 LCD Finder
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Posted Wed Jun 8, 2005 9:28AM

Ohh and lastly I hope Canon bring out their own version of the Contax FE-1 LCD Finder :)



*DROOL*
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Posted Wed Jun 8, 2005 10:45AM
now I'm kicking myself... I ordered the Canon Angle Finder C last night although the Zigview looks like it might have some obvious benefits.

I've put a request in with the manufacturers to get hold of a review model (oh the joys of working for the press...) so I'll put in my 2c worth when I've had chance to check it out.
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Posted Wed Jun 8, 2005 4:42PM
Cool Chris, hope you get one and can give us a nice review. Hell if you have it before Prague bring it with you
Dave2003
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Posted Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:23AM
From what I have read on DPreview from users with experience with zigview it is not worth getting even at the cheap price of a couple of hundred US dollars.

What is interesting though is that Canon have released the Canon 20Da which will allow live preview for night scenes (live preview will not work in bright light with this camera).

The live preview on the 20Da works by locking up the mirror and letting light in through the aperture.

If they can do this with an astronomy camera lets hope that it is not that much of a leap to extend live preview to brightly lit scenes, I would love to see live preview available on the next version of the 20D

[edit] here is a link to a review on the Canon 20Da on dpreview

(Edited on 2005-06-10 04:25:03 by Dave2003)

(Edited on 2005-06-10 04:26:38 by Dave2003)
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Posted Wed Jul 6, 2005 1:41PM
k, its taken some time but I've finally had a review model of the Zigview turn up and... it's ok.

The image quality on the 1.9" LCD is shockingly bad but then no worse than the LCD screen of your standard digi compact but there's no way you'd turn to it to get any idea of the quality of a regular shot as the refresh rate is *painfully* slow.

What it does excel in is its ability to give you some idea of the frame of a shot if you were to shoot over the top of a crowd. You'd need to trust your AF points and leave much of the control to your camera but if you're in a pap scrum outside a Soho nightclub at 3am while the latest soap/pop star is evicting the contents of their stomach on the pavement then you just might get the edge.

There is a menu from which you can alter the AE mode, back-light and adjust the magnification although it still remains pretty much a one trick gadget.

I'll bring it along to the iStockalypse in Prague so if anyone wants to check it out they're more than welcome but taking into account its cost and potential I'm afraid it gets a track5 rating of just 6 out 10... and thats being generous.
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