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rawlsct
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Posted Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:51AM
^^I wish to compliment dscott's persistance in attempting to provide sound business advice while ignoring the "blows goats" comment.

Only thing I have to add is that you really should remove or at least watermark the sample images at the beginning of this discussion unless you have releases from either the client or the other photographer . . .
MacphersonPhoto
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Posted Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:59AM

^^I wish to compliment dscott's persistance in attempting to provide sound business advice while ignoring the "blows goats" comment.


I second that. I'm amazed he could resist.


dscott
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Posted Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:34AM

I second that. I'm amazed he could resist.


I third that.

However, please note that I couldn't resist but I could return and edit my original reply.

(Edited on 2005-06-24 09:34:33 by dscott)
djwoody
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Posted Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:56AM
I think she's just pissed off that her new haircut looks so crappy!!! She needs someone to take it out on.

Your photo is 100 times better - focus, tone, composition, lighting is all way better, but I don't think there is a copyright issue here. I would finish the web site and move on. Think of it as a portfolio piece - just tell people that you didn't take the photo.
Pixel-Pizzazz
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Posted Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:55PM
Here's a quote that seems very relevant:

"One's perception is one's reality."

Remembering this goes a long way in getting past problematic issues.

As well as:

"You're either part of the problem, or part of the solution."

Randy - I wish you well and know you'll do the right thing.
lensman888
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Posted Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:01PM
Since I've actually taken the time to read all 84 messages (I'm at work!) here's my two cents worth:

- I would not have used the photo's as you did here without at the very least making the woman unrecognizable. Who knows who is going to see those pics and what repercussions will result?

- No court in the world would say that your photo was copied (in the 'legal' sense of copied, that is). If so I want to sue all those tourists who took the EXACT same picture I did at Niagara Falls.

- You agreed to a photo-shoot and to design a web-site. The fact that she wanted other photo's used should have no bearing in the 'contract'. She, of course, had no leg to stand on to ask you for a free re-shoot.

- Put the site back up. Use the other photo's and make sure the other photographer is credited so that the crappy ones aren't attributed to you.

- As has been said before; bad word of mouth can be an absolute business-killer, especially if a small business relies on local word of mouth for work; but if that doesn't concern you then simply walk away.



entitydesigns
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Posted Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:20PM

I know this is no "rate my picture" thread, but I'd just like to say that for me the original photo has one thing which makes it the winner: her hands are visible. IMO this is essential for this kind of portrait photography, especially if you are taking shots of an artist.


Some artists have no hands they draw or sculpt with their feet i seen it on tv.
closed373788
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Posted Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:25PM
She looked better before the haircut.
SweetyMommy
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Posted Fri Jun 24, 2005 10:30PM

I would not have used the photo's as you did here without at the very least making the woman unrecognizable. Who knows who is going to see those pics and what repercussions will result?



I'm sure that the woman being discussed would be horrified and embarrassed to learn of her pictures being displayed and discussed in this way.

Perhaps they should be deleted from the original post, or at least watermarked, now that you've got the response you wanted?
spindrift
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Posted Sat Jun 25, 2005 4:59AM
I'd go back and reshoot it as a goodwill thing in return for her paying the balance.

How long's that realistically going to take in return for getting your hands on the rest of the folding stuff - 10 mintues..?

Take her site down and start a row and she probably won't pay the rest of the money and you end up making an enemy.

Artists can be very good contacts. Some go on to become highly successful and one or two of them remember and stick with people they forged relationships with at the outset.



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