ID Me: hummingbird and babies

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DarrenMower
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Posted Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:54PM
I thought it would be easy to identify, afterall I knew it was a hummingbird. Well, I am not sure now. I think it is a rufous female? Maybe? Thanks all you bird lovers!  Hope to upload with the proper identification.
ETA:  forgot to mention it was located in Central Utah, Manti to be exact.  The babies are about 2 weeks old.  I have not shot a lot of birds before.  It was fun.  Sony A850,70-400G lens, captured @400mm,f8,1/160,three kenko extension tubes,three off camera speedlights.


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(Edited on 2010-06-21 13:04:05 by DarrenMower)
OliverChilds
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Posted Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:16PM
Maybe you could sitemail a Hummingbird expert such as NaturesDisplay  or BirdImages for an opinion.

(Edited on 2010-06-21 15:22:23 by OliverChilds)
SoopySue
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Posted Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:50PM
Posted By OliverChilds:
Maybe you could sitemail a Hummingbird expert such as NaturesDisplay or BirdImages for an opinion.


I'd second that. female hummers are a nightmare, and Im not getting the colour that I'd expect.


Good luck. Congrats on getting that lighting setup without disturbing the bird.
DarrenMower
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Posted Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:40PM

I sent off a sitemail to both of them. We shall see...


The mother hummingbird was kind enough to pick a nesting location in the center of my Grandmother's outdoor aluminum awning on the back porch.  It is only about 7 feet off the ground hanging on an old piece of rope and a pulley that have not been used in a while.  There are often people around, so the birds seem to be tolerant of people.  The background is the white aluminum beam and awning.  


I live about two hours from her place.  We were down there this weekend for father's day so I set part of the afternoon on Saturday aside specifically to photograph these birds.  I spent about three hours before I got the shots I wanted.  She would come and go about every 15 minutes, and only spend 30 seconds or so at the nest before leaving, just long enough to feed the young.
BirdImages
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Posted Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:23PM
According to birdzilla.com. There are 5 species of hummingbirds in Utah, quote:

Hummingbirds

Five species of hummingbirds can be found in Utah. The south west corner of the state is the most productive area when looking for hummingbirds.




  • Black-chinned Hummingbird
  • Costa's Hummingbird
  • Anna's Hummingbird
  • Broad-tailed Hummingbird
  • Calliope Hummingbird




  • I am far from being a humm expert, and my geo location is far from Utah. The photo unfortunately do not show the back of the bird, nor the top of the tail, not much markings to go by. Do you have shots from other angles? I can certainly rule out Caliope/Annas/Broadtail. First sight I thought it is a blackchin. Upon looking at Sibley's, Costas and Blackchin female are hard to tell apart.


    I have seen a lot of blackchin female, but never a female Costas. So I am not ready to make a call.


    Take closer observations the next time you go, blackchins 'bob' their tail up & down a lot when hovering.


    Sorry I am not much help.




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DarrenMower
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Posted Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:53PM

Thanks for taking the time to respond.  I had someone else respond on another location that thinks it is a black-chinned hummingbird.  Here is another angle.


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DarrenMower
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Posted Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:09PM

Here is a slightly out of focus rear view if that helps.


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NaturesDisplay
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Posted Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:08AM
First, congratulations on a great image. We are not in any way hummer experts, but we keep a journal of what & when different hummers visit our home in S. Ca.  We also keep most images that might help ID a bird from different angles.  The females are often unidentifiable unless you hear them or observe their flight habits.
 
We agree with BirdImages and would also rule out Costas which have a shorter bill and tail feathers.  We find the following links helpful for identification.  Our best guess for your bird is Black-chinned.  It has a long bill & we usually look for the pointed outer tail feathers if you have any pics that show them.
 
NaturesDisplay
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Posted Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:25PM

Sorry, for some reason, the links didn't show. Hopefully, they will be displayed this time. 


 

sylvanworksCLOSED
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Posted Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:59PM
Awesome shots!! I'm so jealous.

ID is easy where I live as there is only one species (Ruby-throated). I do have to say that she looks an awful lot like the female ruby-throated I see here in the North East.
DarrenMower
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Posted Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:26PM

Thanks everyone for the help.  I will find some time next month to actually process shots from this for istock along with the last lypse that Karen and I went to  (RR5).  I have hardly looked at those shots either. Too many wedding pics to edit.


Karen is having a baby of ours then (our last one)...so I will have time off of work to help with that, and edit pictures too of course.   Plus pics of the newborn model.  Can't forget that.
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Posted Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:37PM
Congrats Darren, Hope Karen and the baby do great!
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