Posted Fri Oct 8, 2010 6:15AM
Congratulations Kurt and good luck with your next battle , and Ryuneo good luck with more important things, it's just a game
Posted Fri Oct 8, 2010 11:57AM
AWESOME work. I love this whole match. It's so fun and light hearted!
Posted Fri Oct 8, 2010 1:16PM
Posted By Ryuneo:
I have seen the draw results on facebook though
Ryan, I don't understand what this means.
Posted Fri Oct 8, 2010 3:37PM
Ryan it's really close game you did great mate I really love your work ..
Noctil Congrats! go and beat ZC
Posted Sat Oct 9, 2010 9:01PM
Congrats Noctiluxx, sorry Ryan, but it sounds like it may have worked out for you!
Posted Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:23AM
Cheers Ryu, it was very nice caging with you.
I hope we can do it again in a regular steel cage some time
Cheers for the support d-art,polar, basha and boma
Posted Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:32PM
Posted By Ryuneo:
Congrats Kurt. Oh i'm glad i'm out though, I have a lot of work to finish. I have seen the draw results on facebook though and would like an explaination from the judges?
Absolutely Ryan. It's probably a good time to talk in depth about the judging. I will take everyone through the whole process.
So the way judging works is that each match gets posted in the back-end on a page that the BEC judges can access. As a judge you get a view where you see the full sized jpegs and also the psds. You look through all of these and then you assign your scores and post your comments.
The scores and comments are then added to the results page for that match. Eventually all three judges do the same thing.
At this point the information is all in there but the page is still private. It takes an additional step for a judge to then confirm the score, declare the winner, assign the credits. Its only at this point that the page becomes public and the scores get posted in the forum.
The Battle Royale forum shares the same back-end with the regular Steel Cage forum. In the regular Steel cage forum it is possible for there to be ties. It actually happens somewhat often.
In the Battle Royal though we need to have a clear winner for each round. So one of the final steps before posting the official score is to check for a tie, and if there is one, then a score needs to be adjusted in order for there to be a clear winner.
Whenever this happens - and it does happen from time to time - we will usually defer to the most senior judge involved in that match to go back, re-evaluate, and change one of the marks in order to break the tie.
That's what happened in this match.
It's unfortunate that the scores were found and posted before this process was completed and the scores were official. Scores in any cage match can't be considered official and final until they are posted by the BEC.
The technology guys here at iStock are aware of the problem that made it possible for that results page to be accessible before it should have been. They will fix it early next week and then we shouldn't have this problem again. It's a long weekend here in Canada (Canadian Thanksgiving) so the fix will probably happen mid week.
So that's what happened. Sorry for the confusion.
Posted Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:40PM
I'd also like to add - I realize that the scores for the last round were a day late coming in. I apologize for the delay. I know how hard people work on their entries in this tournament and what a challenge it is for all of you participants to meet the deadlines involved. You deserve timely results from us.
Posted Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:39PM
Thanks Andrew, for explaining the process! That makes sence and very clear now, with all the comments and emotions.
Posted Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:04PM
Since the subject of judging is being discussed here I'd like to ask a question that I and others have asked several times that keeps getting overlooked: Will those of us who did not qualify for the BR ever get to see what our scores were and how our scores compared to those who qualified? The moment the top 32 were posted all of their qualifying round entries as well as all of the others were removed. Without seeing at least how we placed there's really not much to be learned here and it takes a lot of the fun out of participating in the competition.
Posted Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:59AM
Thanks Roger, that is how I figured the process worked. Cheers