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Khosrownia
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Posted Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:18AM
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/I found the news that iStock "...is getting closer to accepting Editorial images" very interesting. In search of discussions on it I was not able to find any. However, I have found many images on iStock that already are Editorial and have been uploaded many moons ago. So what's new here?


My understanding of Editorial images is that it can only be used for that purpose, and that whatever it used to be unacceptable (for model or property release reasons, etc) will be acceptable provided there a context and people, especially underaged children are not alone in the image. Anything else that I need to know?


Thanks.

(Edited on 2011-01-12 08:19:02 by Khosrownia)
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Posted Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:23AM

You found many images on iStock that are already Editorial? How do you define Editorial? smile Istock would not accept images with recognizable people in it without model releases.


Getty's definition of Editorial:


"Live-coverage photos of news, sport and entertainment events around the world."

(Edited on 2011-01-12 08:26:28 by remsan)
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Posted Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:26AM
You should probably read these first:

Article

Forum

(Edited on 2011-01-12 08:27:32 by ilbusca)
Khosrownia
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Posted Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:58AM

Thanks.


I searched for Editorial and came across some images that seemed to fit the bill. But, I was looking for some clarifications on the Article that ilbusca pointed out as well. And I didn't know there was a forum specific to this subject. And now I do.


Thanks again.


Farzad
Strauski
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Posted Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:00PM
I am trying to upload photos to editorial in Deep Meta, but I cannot find anything which will indicate that the photos are for editorial use olny. I just downloaded the newest version of Deep Meta. I am wondering where in the upload process I will be able to indicate 'Editorial" use.
jentakespictures
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Posted Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:22PM
Posted By Strauski:
I am trying to upload photos to editorial in Deep Meta, but I cannot find anything which will indicate that the photos are for editorial use olny. I just downloaded the newest version of Deep Meta. I am wondering where in the upload process I will be able to indicate 'Editorial" use.

We can't upload editorial images yet.  The start date for uploading has not been announced.
kelvinjay
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Posted Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:31PM
Please read the Editorial FAQ.
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Posted Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:16AM
Posted By toddmedia:


Posted By kelvinjay:
Please read the Editorial FAQ.




Yep.

I think Editorial was announced a bit prematurely. Should have waited until the week before uploading could begin. Or maybe even the "day" uploading could begin. This has been too long of a tease. LOL

Actually, I completely lost interest and motivation.
jentakespictures
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Posted Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:19AM
Posted By toddmedia:

Posted By kelvinjay:
Please read the Editorial FAQ.

Yep.

I think Editorial was announced a bit prematurely. Should have waited until the week before uploading could begin. Or maybe even the "day" uploading could begin. This has been too long of a tease. LOL


I agree!  I wish they had announced it when it had a confirmed date.  I haven't even seen any admins in this forum in a couple of weeks.


With my luck, it's going to happen in February as soon as I go on vacation!
NoDerog
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Posted Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:05AM
“CALGARY - DECEMBER 13 : iStock is opening up a new door. Today it is our pleasure to announce that iStock will soon introduce a new Editorial Use Only license. This means that we will now be able to accept unreleased images (social, travel, etc.), product shots, and architectural and landmark images that we could not in the past.
This will be quick, get ready to act: the launch of editorial use for photo will be in the first weeks of 2011 & other mediums will follow. In order for all of you to start looking back at your RAW files & in order to set the initial tone, we have prepared an article to help define the offering.”

Okay, that didn’t happen and I suspect no one realistically expected it to happen given Istock’s track record for delivering on promises.  However, I’m sure a bunch of people have already invested some time and effort in shooting and getting editorial shots ready for upload.  So, some kind of estimate of a launch date would be nice before more time and effort is expended, expecially if we are talking 6 months to a year. Some of these types of shots begin to get stale after a few months so it makes sense to wait and shoot fresh content for a lot of editorial subjects.
People are probably trying to decide if it is worth putting more effort into this and a little guidance on timelines would be helpful. The ominous silence in this forum is not promoting any confidence in seeing a speedy rollout of the Editorial launch.
We were also promised an article giving guidance on Editorial keywording. Any idea on when that may be available? It is hard to understand how the CV is going to handle potentially billions of new keywords needed to identify all the possible proper names, locations, streets, corporations, brands, products, etc etc.
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Posted Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:51AM
Posted By jentakespictures:
Posted By Strauski:
I am trying to upload photos to editorial in Deep Meta, but I cannot find anything which will indicate that the photos are for editorial use olny. I just downloaded the newest version of Deep Meta. I am wondering where in the upload process I will be able to indicate 'Editorial" use.

We can't upload editorial images yet.  The start date for uploading has not been announced.


That's correct. You can go ahead and already add your editorial images in DeepMeta, keyword them, etc. Just don't upload them yet. Once the iStock editorial uploads go live, I will have an updated version of DeepMeta: in that version, you'll be able to mark all those files as "Editorial" and start uploading them.
jentakespictures
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Posted Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:27AM

I assume Franky has inside info since he's the one who made DeepMeta and is the one updating it for editorial. And he has an admin badge.


However, since you're here - can you tell us how the caption/description fields will be handled?  I haven't put anything into DM yet because I wasn't sure if I would have to redo it.  
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Posted Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:26AM
Posted By jentakespictures:
I assume Franky has inside info since he's the one who made DeepMeta and is the one updating it for editorial. And he has an admin badge. :)

You do have a point

However, since you're here - can you tell us how the caption/description fields will be handled?  I haven't put anything into DM yet because I wasn't sure if I would have to redo it.  

This is how it will work:

Let's say you have an editorial image already imported in DeepMeta and already having a Title, Keywords, Categories, etc.

Once you'll upgrade to the new version of DeepMeta (will be version 1.5), and click on that image, you will notice a few extra fields, specific to Editorial. (the usual Title, Description, etc still exist alongside)

The first is the "Is Editorial Only" checkbox. Once you click that, the following Editorial related fields will be pre-filled for you as much as possible:

- The Editorial Date will be initially set to the Creation date of the image, as extracted from the JPG Exif data (if available).
- The Editorial Caption will be initially set to whatever you have filled in the Title field.
- The Editorial Country will be set to the last country you've specified for Editorial.

Of course, you can still change any of those fields before uploading. The above are just default values.

So what I meant was, that in a typical case, where standard Exif data could be extracted from the JPG, and given that you've already entered a good Title for your image, all you'll have to do is tick the "Is Editorial" checkbox, and accept the defaults chosen for you.

That's all I can say for now, but I hope it will give you enough confidence to start filling DeepMeta with your Editorial images
RyersonClark
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Posted Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:06PM
Thanks Franky, I'll start doing that.
jentakespictures
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Posted Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:17PM
Posted By FrankyDeMeyer:

Posted By jentakespictures:
I assume Franky has inside info since he's the one who made DeepMeta and is the one updating it for editorial. And he has an admin badge. smile


You do have a point wink


However, since you're here - can you tell us how the caption/description fields will be handled? I haven't put anything into DM yet because I wasn't sure if I would have to redo it.


This is how it will work:

Let's say you have an editorial image already imported in DeepMeta and already having a Title, Keywords, Categories, etc.

Once you'll upgrade to the new version of DeepMeta (will be version 1.5), and click on that image, you will notice a few extra fields, specific to Editorial. (the usual Title, Description, etc still exist alongside)

The first is the "Is Editorial Only" checkbox. Once you click that, the following Editorial related fields will be pre-filled for you as much as possible:

- The Editorial Date will be initially set to the Creation date of the image, as extracted from the JPG Exif data (if available).
- The Editorial Caption will be initially set to whatever you have filled in the Title field.
- The Editorial Country will be set to the last country you've specified for Editorial.

Of course, you can still change any of those fields before uploading. The above are just default values.

So what I meant was, that in a typical case, where standard Exif data could be extracted from the JPG, and given that you've already entered a good Title for your image, all you'll have to do is tick the "Is Editorial" checkbox, and accept the defaults chosen for you.

That's all I can say for now, but I hope it will give you enough confidence to start filling DeepMeta with your Editorial images wink


Fantastic!  Thanks so much.
Willowpix
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Posted Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:46PM
Great info. Thanks Franky!
holgs
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Posted Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:57AM

Posted By FrankyDeMeyer:

- The Editorial Country will be set to the last country you've specified for Editorial.



Is there any way of extracting the Country from the Metadata as well?

I'll be uploading editorial from about 60 different countries, most of which already have this info in the image metadata... so it would probably save a fair amount of time to do it this way.
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Posted Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:16AM
Posted By holgs:
Is there any way of extracting the Country from the Metadata as well?

I'll be uploading editorial from about 60 different countries, most of which already have this info in the image metadata... so it would probably save a fair amount of time to do it this way.

That's a great idea.
I see there is an "IPTC: Country" and "IPTC: ISO Country code". Are you using one of these, or are there other related ones?

Thanks!
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Posted Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:49AM
Under Origin I use CIty, State/Province, and Country for that information.
jentakespictures
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Posted Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:03AM
Is it possible to pull the country from geotags?
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