Contributors Exceeding Upload Limits

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sjlocke
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Posted Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:55AM
There is a bug listed here as "* Issues with people being able to exceed their upload limit are being addressed. "

It has not been repaired since first reported more than a month ago, and many contributors are racking up hundreds of extra uploads beyond what they should be allowed while it is still allowed to go on.

I've said these uploads should just be removed from the portfolios in question when/if the fix happens. There's been no report on what the resolution will be from above, though. Do you think it is "fair" to ask for those to be remove to keep everyone on the even field, or am I just being harsh in thinking that should be the solution?

(Edited on 2011-03-10 05:55:24 by sjlocke)

(Edited on 2011-03-10 05:58:14 by sjlocke)
e-person
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Posted Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:12AM

Given the way this site has been managed in the last twelve months or so, I would think none is that incompetent, therefore it is not a glitch, but rather just a way to get certain people to upload their whole portfolio. I frankly do not care, one way or the other. Unlike you, I am not depending on iStock for my income. By the time I might, this whole thing will be taken down by Getty.


 
mmac72
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Posted Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:26AM

The question is: "does iSP allow some contributor to upload more than allowed according to their canistrer level?"


if yes: why?


if not: why is no action taken?


 
franckreporter
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Posted Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:33AM
is a real problem ! no one should be more surprised by the long queues .... many uploads there shouldn't be!
Imgorthand
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Posted Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:43AM

IMHO the uploaded files should be removed from portfolios but not deleted completely. Just deactivated.


Each week a number of files would be automatically reactivated as simulating normal upload. The user would be blocked from uploading until all his files readded to the database. Possibly for several months.


That would be fair and the inspectors work would not go to waste.


 


But considering how things are handled here recently I don't expect anything like that.


In fact I don't expect it to be solved in any way at all.
cmannphoto
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Posted Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:48AM
Posted By Imgorthand:

IMHO the uploaded files should be removed from portfolios but not deleted completely. Just deactivated.


Each week a number of files would be automatically reactivated as simulating normal upload. The user would be blocked from uploading until all his files readded to the database. Possibly for several months.


That would be fair and the inspectors work would not go to waste.


 


But considering how things are handled here recently I don't expect anything like that.


In fact I don't expect it to be solved in any way at all.

That is a great solution and you make a valid point about not making the inspectors review the images a second time.
Feverstockphoto
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Posted Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:50AM
I had no idea of this situation, but i don't think they should be removed. What i think should happen is a lower upload cap on future uploads for those who have exceeded their limit until it evens itself out.


I only upload a few files every week so will never reach my limit. I would however like a raise on the 2 upload vetta nominations limit a month!


 


I'm a very slow typer! smile.

(Edited on 2011-03-10 06:53:23 by Feverstockphoto)
Imgorthand
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Posted Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:56AM
I only upload a few files every week so will never reach my limit. I would however like a raise on the 2 upload vetta nominations limit a month!



Send mail to istockcollections (at) istockphoto.com and ask. There are cool guys there and they will probably add you couple of slots
3dvd
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Posted Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:59AM

Well I guess the honor system isn't working so IMHO the extra files should be de-activated and the member allowed to re-activate when they have no files to upload.


I'm not holding my breathe though.
bbuong
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Posted Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:02AM
Eliminated my +1... then: I do think the ONLY correct way to go is to deactivate files uploaded in excess to normal quota, and reintroduce them gradually according to the correct limits. Respecting the same rules is the basis of any correct market. If someone is allowed to break them then we will all be affected... whatever our own upload numbers are... 
ilbusca
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Posted Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:04AM

If the contributors knew that they were doing something wrong I think that all the exceeding limit files should be removed immediately since it is not fair competition with the other contributor who always followed the rules.

There is already a lot of unfair competition from the Hulton Archive and from the Agency contributors, we don't really need more.


ETA: Also, I don't think re-introducing the files automatically is fair. Why do I have to wait 7 days to upload and they don't? It would be much easy for everyone to upload 2000 files together when you have time and then go for a holiday rather than wait the right time to upload, but we always did like that because those were the rules. If they want to reupload the files they have to wait and the file has to be put in the normal queue with the chance of being rejected again.

(Edited on 2011-03-10 07:07:41 by ilbusca)
bbuong
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Posted Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:06AM
Posted By ilbusca:

If the contributors knew that they were doing something wrong I think that all the exceeding limit files should be removed immediately since it is not fair competition with the other contributor who always followed the rules.



I think this should be done even if they did not realize they were doing something wrong. I don't think they have to be 'punished', it is just we need things to go back to 'normal' for everybody. 
Feverstockphoto
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Posted Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:12AM
Posted By Imgorthand:


I only upload a few files every week so will never reach my limit. I would however like a raise on the 2 upload vetta nominations limit a month!





Send mail to istockcollections (at) istockphoto.com and ask. There are cool guys there and they will probably add you couple of slots smile




Thanks for the advice, i did set up a lightbox last month to be reviewed for this purpose and emailed them the link also asking for a raise in nominations due to a few Indialypse images i'll be uploading shortly whenever i receive the approved model releases. They emailed me saying the lightbox photos will be reviewed by one of the Vetta Collection editors.


But no mention on whether they will be raising my vetta nomination slots!


 


Oh sorry for taking this slightly of topic, now back to the story .

(Edited on 2011-03-10 07:13:11 by Feverstockphoto)
franckreporter
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Posted Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:20AM
stay on topic !
bunhill
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Posted Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:55AM

Posted By e-person:

this whole thing will be taken down by Getty.


What makes you say that ? People keep hinting that this is where things are going. Is that a hunch or do you have something more definite ?
double_p
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Posted Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:04AM
Well, when trust is low among creative people there is no limit to what can be imagined. I am waiting for conspiracy theories to pop up.
Posted By bunhill:


Posted By e-person:

this whole thing will be taken down by Getty.



What makes you say that ? People keep hinting that this is where things are going. Is that a hunch or do you have something more definite ?
PeskyMonkey
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Posted Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:14AM
If I'm honest, I don't care about the uploads that have exceeded quotas so far. Let the contributors keep them if they like, even though they may 'benefit' unfairly when considering RC and canister level targets. Although the 'honorable' thing for all contributors to do would be to stay within their limits (I don't believe people aren't aware of their own limits) and maybe even remove or hold back on future uploads themselves to compensate. 

My concern is why it is taking so long to fix.... because the longer this goes on the more people are going to get p*ssed off about it and the more unfair things get. It makes a mockery of the whole exclusive system here and then of the whole site in general. Can't an email be sent out to all those concerned advising them to stick within their upload limits until the issue is fixed - for the good of 'community spirit' or what little of it remains here.
bbuong
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Posted Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:15AM


ETA: Also, I don't think re-introducing the files automatically is fair. Why do I have to wait 7 days to upload and they don't? It would be much easy for everyone to upload 2000 files together when you have time and then go for a holiday rather than wait the right time to upload, but we always did like that because those were the rules. If they want to reupload the files they have to wait and the file has to be put in the normal queue with the chance of being rejected again.

(Edited on 2011-03-10 07:07:41 by ilbusca)

Back to the main topic: actually, I do agree with ilbusca. Gradually does not imply 'automatically'... anyway an 'official' comment by someone of the isp adm. would be appreciated.
volschenkh
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Posted Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:23AM
This situation is rather unfair and it should receive urgent attention. From the looks of it, these independents are not beginner photographers and their portfolios will unfairly compete with exclusives with limited upload slots. IS’s rules should apply to everyone equally.
fotoVoyager
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Posted Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:24AM
How does anyone know what other people are doing?
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