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-Oxford-
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:36AM
Image:


http://www.theoxfordgroup.com/istock/r-backtoschool.jpg



Rejected for:


Addition of text - This image appears to be over-filtered/over-processed which has affected the image quality. This may include Photoshop filters & effects (over-sharpening, excessive adjustments to levels, curves, contrast, hues, gaussian blurs, saturation, added textures, noise reduction...) or other manipulations. We feel the image would have more value to designers with minimal or no post processing effects so that the designers could add their own post-processing effects.


Question:


I added the text as a font because the chalk was not bright enough when hand written (well, to me). Is the issue the addition of text or is the font text too sharp. Maybe a 1% blurr would help. Is adding text to an image a reason for rejection. The text was not processed at all.


 


Thanks for your input

(Edited on 2011-07-12 11:36:44 by billoxford)

(Edited on 2011-07-12 11:55:35 by billoxford)
kelvinjay
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:51AM
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I think the text you added severely restricts the usage. It looks totally fake also. Generally the best option is not to add such text to any image unless you can do it well. You also have to be sure that you can include your chosen font in an image you are then licensing on an RF basis.

I'd leave it blank, work out a way to make real chalk look right or just move on. This kind of content is incredibly common - so I wouldn't waste much time on it for the likely returns it will give you.

(Edited on 2011-07-12 11:51:43 by kelvinjay)
-Oxford-
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:02PM

Thanks Kev.


You stated: "Generally the best option is not to add such text to any image unless you can do it well."


So my question is... What is the way to do it well? Would this image have been accepted if the excecution of the type was better? I am not so concerned about THIS image. (Tons of back to school out there) but more the issue of font/type execution. It this rejection a matter of adding text or how the text was added?


 
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:08PM

Posted By kelvinjay: It looks totally fake also. Generally the best option is not to add such text to any image unless you can do it well.


What he said. It just looks plopped on, no effort to integrate it into the board. If you search around here, I'm sure you can find good examples of what it should look like...
donald_gruener
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:14PM

Posted By billoxford:

It this rejection a matter of adding text or how the text was added?



Well, some of both, really. We will almost always reject if we perceive that text has been added. If text is added but so well executed & natural that we can't tell it's been added, it would likely be accepted. That said, when the same exact image starts coming through with different bits of text on it (Back to School, ABC, 1+2=3, etc.) then we bring out the duplicate rejection.

The best way to get an image like this accepted is to forget about including text and leave it blank. By far the most useful, and most designers can add exactly the text they want more convincingly that you have done here. That way the image also works for someone who wants text other than "Back To School" or wants it in a different color or a different font or wants to actually hand letter it or wants to put a drawing on it or wants nothing at all.... it makes little sense to pigeon-hole your image with just a single text concept when it could serve for so much more.

If you're dead-set on including text, the best way is for the text to be already present in the image when you shoot it, in real chalk on the chalkboard.
-Oxford-
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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:40PM

Thanks Sean and Don


 
TryonCapture
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Posted Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:51PM

Also, if you really want to make it match, there are a few ways you can make it blend that I know of.


In Photoshop you can:


Before compiling:


First make sure the text looks like a handwritten piece.  Then Rasterize type so you can edit the image.


Add a gaussian blur to text, Digital Graphics are ALWAYS sharper than an image, Just because of it's exactness so put on a blur.  Then add a little bit of noise to the graphic through a basic Add Noise filter.  That will make it blend more to the image.


Then you will probably want to add the texture of the board over top of the text.  So Copy a piece of the board (use marquee selection tools then ctrl-C (on mac it's Apple-c) and then put that piece over top of your text and toggle through your blending modes to see what you can get.  (Overlay, Soft Light, and multiply are probably going to have the most affect)  Then adjust the opacity on that blended layer to see if that will make a difference.  To combine your text to the overlay ctrl+click (apple+click) the layer over top and your text then press ctrl+e or apple+e 


Try messing with all layer blending modes.
Try adjusting opacity percentages.


 


That's all I can add to this.  Hope it works for you.
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