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Nikon announces D800 and D800E

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slobo
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Posted Wed Feb 8, 2012 4:55PM
Nikon is going to get a lot of new users with this particular camera. It looks like camera of choice for stock photography. If I didn't have 5DmkII I would definitely buy this one.
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Posted Wed Feb 8, 2012 6:32PM

Posted By hatman12:

Nice sample image here:  http://chsvimg.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d800/img/sample01/img_01_l.jpg


Complete set of samples here: http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d800/sample01.htm

(Edited on 2012-02-07 16:40:34 by hatman12)



Those files don't look any better than my D700 produces.

The dual card slot is very tempting though!

(Edited on 2012-02-08 18:34:39 by realitybytes)
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Posted Wed Feb 8, 2012 6:57PM
The files may not be any better than a D700 just a whole lot bigger, and that's an accomplishment in itself.  Retaining D700 quality at 36MP!
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Posted Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:46PM

Considering big RAW file size of D800, I am thinking about the following work flow. I am wondering whether it will make sense or not.


1. Shoot  RAW (14 bit lossless comression 41 MB or full 70 MB)  --> 2. WB, exposure adjustment, noise reduction and perhpas auto level in Nikon NX2  then save as  JPEG file  ---> 3. Rest of the post processing in Photo Shop.  If I save as 16bit TIFF file instead of JPEG, it would be over 200MB and my PC will definitely overloaded.
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Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 1:47AM

I'm dithering about this camera too - I have a D700 and love it, but would not mind more dynamic range to handle our harsh conditions in South Africa. It seems though that the D4 makes more sense - 16Mp in a new sensor is all I need. Just wish I could justify the price!


So my options for an upgrade on the D700 then is the D800 (plus new computer, huge storage, more storage cards etc) or the older D3S. How would the D3S compare with the D800 in handling contrast range? If similar, that's what I'll buy rather.
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Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 2:53AM

Posted By David_Ahn:

Considering big RAW file size of D800, I am thinking about the following work flow. I am wondering whether it will make sense or not.


1. Shoot  RAW (14 bit lossless comression 41 MB or full 70 MB)  --> 2. WB, exposure adjustment, noise reduction and perhpas auto level in Nikon NX2  then save as  JPEG file  ---> 3. Rest of the post processing in Photo Shop.  If I save as 16bit TIFF file instead of JPEG, it would be over 200MB and my PC will definitely overloaded.


I keep my 5D2 RAWs, they are my negatives. I create a 16bit TIFF to do any further editing on, cloning etc and save it and then convert to 8bit and save a jpeg out from that for upload to IS. Once the file has been accepted, I simply delete the intermediate TIFF. Saves a whole lot of space.
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Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 3:22AM
I left the MP race long ago and it only means to me now how much computer upgrading I would have to do.  If I have a new top end machine and needed a new camera, I might look at this one, otherwise, not interesed right now.
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Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:46AM
Is there a maximum file size that can be uploaded to iStock? Does 36MP come close to reaching whatever that limit is?
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Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 7:03AM
To be honest, 36MP is nothing to shout about. We've had people uploading much bigger files from MF digital backs and stitched images for years. Steve Cole and Yuri upload big native files and then people like fotovoyager upload big panoramas that must be well over 50MP.

(Edited on 2012-02-09 07:17:44 by kelvinjay)
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Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 8:17AM

On a tangent.....36MP at $3000 is something to shout about!  Agreed the large MP MF backs have been around for eons now but they are combersome and slow (for me) in comparison to (35MM) DSLR bodies.  36MP for the masses with a really fast return on investment for many pros and stock shooters is pretty groundbreaking - and all that with Nikon ergonomics. But then, there does seem to be a lot of Canon shooters in this Nikon thread so some negativity just has to seep in....Please let us Nikon shooters just revel a little, please, I'm sure y'all have something to brag about soon.


I also don't seem to get any real big 'low noise' message from Nikon in their marketing.  I think the D4 is there for low noise - this may well be a slow speed, high MP camera.  The D3x (D700) (D3) might still outperfom it in some ways.


I do wonder about lenses though.  I doubt I can get away with older glass on one of these.  I'd love some input on glass performance from D800 users once they gain some mileage.
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Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 8:56AM

I agree something to shout about.  I am still on the fence about getting one but that is only because there is nothing wrong with my d3x. If I was still shooting with the d300 then my deposit would have been down on Tuesday morning first thing. 


This is the first camera for the masses to offer MF size. It can only be a good thing. Roll on the D4x.
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Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 9:20AM
Oh. I am so sorry. Please do forgive me. It was without doubt not my intention to bruise any thin skinned Nixonians with my comments. I thought what I said would be obviously seen as a reply to Brian's question about whether 36MP was any significant event in regards to iStock's maximum file sizes. Which, as I explained, it isn't . Apologies to anyone who failed to pick up on that for any unintended offence caused.
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Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 9:28AM
Here is a nice review D800 review
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Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 9:44AM
Kelvin, us nikonians have had size issues for some time now.  Always worried in case someone saw our puny 12mp.  Some nikonians got around this with 24mp, but there was always the embarressment about the expense. 
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Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 9:47AM
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Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 1:35PM
Posted By kelvinjay:


Posted By David_Ahn:

Considering big RAW file size of D800, I am thinking about the following work flow. I am wondering whether it will make sense or not.


1. Shoot  RAW (14 bit lossless comression 41 MB or full 70 MB)  --> 2. WB, exposure adjustment, noise reduction and perhpas auto level in Nikon NX2  then save as  JPEG file  ---> 3. Rest of the post processing in Photo Shop.  If I save as 16bit TIFF file instead of JPEG, it would be over 200MB and my PC will definitely overloaded.



I keep my 5D2 RAWs, they are my negatives. I create a 16bit TIFF to do any further editing on, cloning etc and save it and then convert to 8bit and save a jpeg out from that for upload to IS. Once the file has been accepted, I simply delete the intermediate TIFF. Saves a whole lot of space. smile


This is a very good suggestion. When you choose save as TIFF do you just click OK or change the default settings?. Is there a quality loss converting from RAW to TIFF? Probably not, because you prefer to do so. I have recently acquired a 12 Megapixel Camera which yields a 69 MB Raw File, and my computer just can't handle it. Your advice would be greatly appreciated.
slobo
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Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 2:36PM
Posted By Fertnig:
But then, there does seem to be a lot of Canon shooters in this Nikon thread so some negativity just has to seep in....Please let us Nikon shooters just revel a little, please, I'm sure y'all have something to brag about soon.

Unless you forgot to put a smiley face there, that's pretty narrow minded. None of us is born Nikonian or Canonian. We pick and choose based on what's offered and people 'change camps' all the time.
Fertnig
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Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 5:43PM
Humour?  A little tightly wound maybe?
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Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 8:49PM
A report on TechRadar today says that many shops have been overwhelmed by pre-orders of the D800 and have now had to close the pre-order lists.  Looks like this new camera is going to be in short supply for a long time.
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Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 10:24PM

Posted By hatman12:
A report on TechRadar today says that many shops have been overwhelmed by pre-orders of the D800 and have now had to close the pre-order lists.  Looks like this new camera is going to be in short supply for a long time.

For that very reason, I ordered mine earlier this week. If the full review doesn't look good, I can always cancel and wait for Canon 5Dmk3 announcement. I'm also hearing rumors that Canon might have two version of 5Dmk3, one something in mid 20mp, and one in 40mp. Who knows?
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