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4x6
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Posted Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:09PM

Anyone know if it is possible to use a Nikon SB910 in master mode and trigger a Canon 430 EX II in slave mode? I tried it this afternoon. It didn't work. My conclusion is that either it really doesn't work, or I did something wrong. So I figured I'd post and ask here. 


The reason I'm asking is because I'm trying to work out how to use my Nikon D800 with my existing Canon Speedlites. Currently I've worked out that I can plug in Canon's off camera cord 2 into the D800 hotshoe and fire off the 580ex in master, which then fires off the 430ex in slave. This is fine, however, the 580ex goes to sleep after 2 mins of inactivitiy, and it seems the D800 doesn't know how to wake up the 580ex, where as a Canon 5D Mark II would know how to wake up the 580ex. 

I realize I could just change the settings on the 580ex so that it won't go to sleep, I'm choosing not to at the moment because the 580ex is connected to a power pack that has AC current. Thus I don't want to accidently leave it on and leave my studio and have it just stay on for days on end.  
stockwerk
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Posted Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:45AM
If I were a black diamond I would probably just replace the 430 EXii with a compatible Nikon flash.

(Edited on 2012-07-12 00:47:37 by stockwerk)
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Posted Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:59AM

I didn't think canon speedlites had a slave cell. 


Peter, are you trying to just trigger them or do you want to trigger them at high speed sync speeds?  It you just want to trigger them then a cheapo trigger will do the job (they will be just like small low power strobes).  If you want high speed then I would imagine you are going to have to sell your vast quantity of canon speedlites and replace them with nikon ones.
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Posted Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:07AM
Posted By stockwerk:
If I were a black diamond I would probably just replace the 430 EXii with a compatible Nikon flash.

(Edited on 2012-07-12 00:47:37 by stockwerk)

I have fourteen 430 EX II, not just one
Posted By lostinbids:

I didn't think canon speedlites had a slave cell. 


Peter, are you trying to just trigger them or do you want to trigger them at high speed sync speeds?  It you just want to trigger them then a cheapo trigger will do the job (they will be just like small low power strobes).  If you want high speed then I would imagine you are going to have to sell your vast quantity of canon speedlites and replace them with nikon ones.


I think I might just change the 580EX settings to never auto power off. I was holding off from doing this because I was afraid I would one day just forget to turn it off when I left the studio. And because the 580 is connected to constant AC power, I was afriad it would cause stay constantly on and catch a fire or something. However, last night it dawned on me I can buy a timer outlet, which would in theory power off after a set amount of time. I've used them as a kid years ago, I remember them working perfectly back then. Although I did read reviews on Amazon last night and the reviews were mixed. Nevertheless I've ordered a couple to try out. In conclusion I'll just connect the Canon 580ex via Canon's off camera she cord 2 to Nikon D800. 
cmannphoto
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Posted Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:29AM

Not sure if these might work for what you want to do, might be worth a look.


http://flashzebra.com/opticalslaves/index.shtml
4x6
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Posted Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:45PM
I solved my problem. Changing the settings on the 580ex to never power off, allowed the D800 to connect to it via off camera cord 2 without an issue. I've been testing it for about last 30 mins, 
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Posted Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:02AM
So are you using 580ex, 430exII, SB910 all at the same time?
I know SB910 has a light sensor(?) that when it's in slave mode, it fires when it detects other flash source fires. I too have 580ex and wonder what I would need to use both SB900 and 580ex.

When you have time, could you write detailed instruction of what connects to what.. settings...?
4x6
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Posted Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:41PM
I'm not using a SB910. I thought about getting one to use with my existing Canon speedlites, but realized I didn't need to when I worked out that I could use the 580ex with a D800 through a off the camera cord 2. It works solidly. 

(Edited on 2012-07-18 13:41:24 by 4x6)
Kativ
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Posted Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:14PM
Are you using wireless trigger? or hard wired from D800 to 580EX?
I assume you are using multiple Canon flashes. How are they all connected?
4x6
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Posted Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:02PM
D800 OR 5D Mark II > 1st half of off camera shoe cord 2 > cat 5 cable > 2nd half of off camera shoe cord 2 > 580 EX in master mode > Fifteen 430 EX II in slave mode.


The off camera shoe cord 2 was taken apart and the cat 5 cable was added in between. This allowed me to place the 580 EX pretty close to the model, whereas, I'm standing about 5 meters away from the model. Yes all Canon flashes.  

(Edited on 2012-07-18 16:10:35 by 4x6)
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