Include Istock watermarked photos on homepage?

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Sieboldianus
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Posted Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:55AM
I am in the progress of creating my external istockphoto blog+gallery. I was wondering if I am allowed to use the Istockphoto Watermarked Images (large and small) directly on my page (that means: hotlinking photos from Istockserver and including them in my site).
Why I want to do this? First of all, I would like to have an external site linking back to all my images on Istockphoto, for personal SEO. Second, I would like to provide additional information for photos. Since I am doing mainly plant photography, I would include complete Latin name and group based on conventions, giving People looking for plan imagery to better find my images on Istock. I would use the PhotoID to connect my database with additional infos to the images on istock.

If Istock does not allow directly linking these images I would either a) download and upload Istock watermarked images on my website or b) create my own thumbnails.

Thanks for help!
anchev
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Posted Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:26AM
I have asked about that too. CE's and CR's answer is you cannot use images with IS watermark. The only exception is FB where you can upload comps of YOUR OWN images with or without IS watermark.

As for SEO - it would be bad SEO for your site to hotlink external content.
Sieboldianus
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Posted Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:34AM
Perfectly clear answer, thanks so much anchev!
I didn't even think about the problem of google etc. setting your pagerank down because of linked images instead of directly hosted ones!

It's funny though that FB gets an extra treatment... in the end its also just another website, right?
sjlocke
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Posted Sun Jul 29, 2012 12:17PM
If watermarked images are encouraged to be taken and used on Pinterest, there is no reason you cant do the same, hotlinked or not. Just a case of do, don't ask.
anchev
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Posted Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:21AM
Posted By Sieboldianus:

It's funny though that FB gets an extra treatment... in the end its also just another website, right?

It's because I have asked so many questions to CE about "why not". So they allowed FB as an exceptionn.



Posted By sjlocke:
If watermarked images are encouraged to be taken and used on Pinterest, there is no reason you cant do the same, hotlinked or not. Just a case of do, don't ask.

That's not what IS thinks. When I tried to ask why it is allowed (and obviously not a problem) for some contributors' sites and for others not - the answer was like "we are not going to discuss anything different from your images and your account, so this matter is closed". This is all I know about that.
sjlocke
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Posted Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:48AM
Again, just add them to Pinterest and use them from there just like anyone else is allowed to do. There is nothing to be said, as that is sanctioned and within Pinterest terms. Yay!
gipi23
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Posted Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:31PM
Isn't having istock-watermarked images available for preview [no dl] a way how to promote IS to even greater amount of people? Once somebody, a potential customer, sees a picture, but they cannot download it, the only way is thru IS. Or am I missing something?
anchev
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Posted Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:47PM
You are missing the part that it is illegal to use other party's logo without their explicit permission. And as you see they don't give one. I would not advice to do anything against the rules if you care for your business.
sjlocke
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Posted Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:04PM

Posted By gipi23:
Isn't having istock-watermarked images available for preview [no dl] a way how to promote IS to even greater amount of people? Once somebody, a potential customer, sees a picture, but they cannot download it, the only way is thru IS. Or am I missing something?


Anyone can use a hotlinked or download a watermarked image from Pinterest, no problem.
Sieboldianus
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Posted Wed Aug 1, 2012 1:13AM

Posted By anchev:
You are missing the part that it is illegal to use other party's logo without their explicit permission. And as you see they don't give one. I would not advice to do anything against the rules if you care for your business.


Well, the part is.. if I am using Istockwatermarked Images of my photos, its not from another party's logo, its my party - since I am working exclusively for Istock, right?

What I will do now is: watermark all my photos I have on Istock with my own name, create ~300 referral links for each photo on Istock and use these to link each image back to Istock. Thats kind of a pain...

Thanks for all your comments. I see its not that an easy answer.

(Edited on 2012-08-01 01:15:35 by Sieboldianus)
anchev
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Posted Wed Aug 1, 2012 2:29PM
Posted By Sieboldianus:


Posted By anchev:
You are missing the part that it is illegal to use other party's logo without their explicit permission. And as you see they don't give one. I would not advice to do anything against the rules if you care for your business.



 Well, the part is.. if I am using Istockwatermarked Images of my photos, its not from another party's logo, its my party - since I am working exclusively for Istock, right?

No. You are working for yourself by using other's brand/logo. This is not the point of exclusivity. You are not getting salary from IS, they didn't ask you to promote them this way and you are not an employee. Even if you were - you still can't use freely the logo of the company unless you are explicitly allowed to. This is exactly the same as trying to sell some noname shoes by putting the Nike logo on them. And that's the same reason why photos with logos are not accepted in the commercial/creative collection.

Of course your images are your copyright but the IS brand/logo is not. So you cannot commercialize it in any other way than through this site. FB is an exception - according to CE.

I hope that makes it easier to understand. Indeed using your own watermark would be best.

As for referral links - all you need is a list of image IDs and a text editor. All URIs are similar.

Good luck!
sjlocke
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Posted Wed Aug 1, 2012 4:17PM
'No. You are working for yourself by using other's brand/logo. This is not the point of exclusivity. You are not getting salary from IS, they didn't ask you to promote them this way and you are not an employee. Even if you were - you still can't use freely the logo of the company unless you are explicitly allowed to. This is exactly the same as trying to sell some noname shoes by putting the Nike logo on them. And that's the same reason why photos with logos are not accepted in the commercial/creative collection.'

You are explicitly allowed to. As well as being encouraged to put watermarked images on Pinterest, we are provided with image advertisements that include the logo. The Nike example is not an accurate analogy.
anchev
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Posted Thu Aug 2, 2012 1:37AM
I shared the official answer of CR and CE. He can decide if he can trust the official answer or your rules. He can also ask for an official answer himself
Sieboldianus
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Posted Thu Aug 2, 2012 4:31AM

Posted By anchev:
I shared the official answer of CR and CE. He can decide if he can trust the official answer or your rules. He can also ask for an official answer himself :)


Thanks anchev and sjlocke. Don't worry, it was not my intent to steal the logo from Istock. The only reason I am creating this homepage is to drive customers to my Istockportfolio and I can do this without using the Istock-Comps.


As for referral links - all you need is a list of image IDs and a text editor. All URIs are similar.


I know this goes a little bit OffTopic, but could you specify this? I was thinking a lot about how to do it, since Istock states "modifying referral links in any way renders them useless". That was why I was thinking I have to create a referral link for every image I am linking to. Can I exchange ImageIDs and the referral link will still work?
sjlocke
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Posted Thu Aug 2, 2012 7:41AM

Posted By anchev:
I shared the official answer of CR and CE. He can decide if he can trust the official answer or your rules. He can also ask for an official answer himself :)


They aren't my rules. Pinterest is an official affiliate of iStock which means iStock approves of having watermarked content there, and Pinterest gets money by referring buyers. Obviously IS would have read the rules of Pinterest (although you aren't to pin content you don't hold copyright to, but that seems to be ignored), and Pinterest allows you to embed content hosted on their servers wherever you like. Ergo, IS approves of embedding watermarked content anywhere.

Now, if IS would like to take a stand that 'pinning' violates the TOS then that might change things.
anchev
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Posted Thu Aug 2, 2012 8:16AM
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Posted By Sieboldianus:

I know this goes a little bit OffTopic, but could you specify this? I was thinking a lot about how to do it, since Istock states "modifying referral links in any way renders them useless". That was why I was thinking I have to create a referral link for every image I am linking to. Can I exchange ImageIDs and the referral link will still work?

I cannot post an example because the forum does not let me do it but in the referral URI you will see the last param is &url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.istockphoto.com%2Fstock-photo-<fileID>-words-from-file-title.php

The bolded part is the one that changes. It is an encoded string of the URI to your file. Instead of http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-photo-ID-something.... you can use http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup?id= Just vary the fileID and encode it. Here is a tool, you will get the logic:

http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/dencoder/
Sieboldianus
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Posted Thu Aug 2, 2012 10:57AM
Thanks!
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