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Blackmagic Cinema Camera - ?? Downloadable raw test shots now available

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lostinbids
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Posted Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:11AM
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/I have been having a look at this camera ever since details of it dropped into my inbox.  I would be interested to know what you guys think?


To me it seems to have an incredible dynamic range and the samples look pretty good.  It is also bundled with what looks like really good colour grading software.  I guess the downside is the small sensor (but I am guessing if it had a large sensor it would be a lot more cash).


ETA I just saw the original thread here but I guess things have moved on a bit as samples are more readily visable now.

(Edited on 2012-08-14 09:18:45 by lostinbids)
ETA change of title now raw test shots available

(Edited on 2012-08-22 04:08:42 by lostinbids)
EricFerguson
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Posted Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:08PM
The form factor is awful. It's probably overkill for iStock. But it's a nice looking camera!
jamesbenet
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Posted Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:17PM
The GH2 has a larger sensor and many consider it small. I look at it as the perfect size for stock because it lets me get shallow with a super fast lens and or very deep at F8 which would require F11 or more on larger sensors. Much easier to focus on the fly too.

However this BM camera is really a 1st to market concept kind of thing. The quality is fantastic and if you are on the fence between a canon SLR like the MkIII and this I say no contest when it comes to quality the black magic wins with its fantastic image quality and near filmic response.  Not in low light, as the 5D MkIII is insanely good.   The form factor will need some sort of rig to operate its just a brain with a large screen so you need to factor the cost of the extra pieces into it.

If it had fast frame rates I would get one as it stands its great for indy film makers on a budget that don't need more than 30p 2k.


Sensor size charts:
blackmagic-cinema-sensor-size



A_Selection_of_Sensor_Sizes-616x410


Final Chart Shows Full Frame 5D MkII and MkIII vs the black magic. Something to think about.

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(Edited on 2012-08-14 15:27:03 by jamesbenet)
lostinbids
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Posted Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:21PM

Would I be right in saying this is a camera that needs good light (or good lights) to produce a workable clip.  However the output from the camera (being raw footage) would be very flexible for post-production work.  Also it would not be a camera that suited to hand held stuff and should be put on a rig on a sturdy tripod or slider.


I am looking at getting into video. My current dslr doesn't do video so I am trying to decide which way to go.  Something like this or a D800 (my stills are on a nikon d3x).
robotboot
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Posted Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:10PM
crop factor and internal battery are killers of this camera.
EricFerguson
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Posted Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:39PM
Tiny sensor... has all kinds of ramifications. Especially for low light performance.
vesperstock
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Posted Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:25PM
Compared to a full broadcast HD video camera, the sensor is about the same size. Compared to pro-sumer HD cameras, this is a large sensor. Bear in mind, nobody has ever offered a broadcast HD camera for $3K. Finding lenses to work with it effectively (ie. that allow you to easily focus and change aperture while shooting) will be tricky but this camera is definitely worth a look.

[edit for grammar]

(Edited on 2012-08-15 06:08:21 by vesperstock)
robotboot
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Posted Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:11PM
this camera is interesting.  especialy for a componys first camera.  it is on my radar of looking at the footage but not anything i would think about getting.  i feel the new pro-sumer hd cam is a DSLR so i feel this sensor is way to small, especially since they are advertising it with canon lenses on it.  isnt the crop cactor over a 2?  i can not shoot with a 50-140 instead of a 24-70 lens.
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Posted Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:28AM

I pre-orderd one right after I saw it at NAB. The quality from the video is amazing when seen first hand. Low light shots are pretty nice. 


Here is some other video from the camera.


http://johnbrawley.wordpress.com/2012/07/29/a-roundup-of-the-current-blackmagic-footage/
lostinbids
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Posted Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:07AM

I just got an email with downloadable raw files to review. The link is http://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15


I am download the first file at the moment to see what it looks like in Resolve lite.  I would be interested to see what others think as, to be honest, I don't really know what I am looking at or for.
kk5hy
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Posted Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:00PM

One full size frame (graded) from the video. 


http://www.campcomet.com/stills/bmc/MusicVideo.jpg
jjneff
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Posted Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:36PM

Beautiful kk5hy!


 
EricFerguson
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Posted Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:41PM
Wow, that really, really does look good at full resolution, and the grading latitude is incredible, of course. Makes DSLR footage look silly.

hmm.
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Posted Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:59PM

cmos censor... ??
does it still have the jelly look ?


still flickering with electric lighting ?
lostinbids
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Posted Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:38AM
^ why not have a look at the released footage and see for yourself.
robotboot
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Posted Fri Sep 7, 2012 8:42AM

http://philipbloom.net/2012/09/05/bmd/


camera did not get to goos of a review.


 
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