Mobilestock or Appstock?

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Posted Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:56AM
I have a question regarding the mobilestock initiative.

Browsing the collection I found few images taken with traditional reflex cameras and processed on a mobile phone with different apps. It is written in the description of those images. Something like "taken with a Nikon D800 processed on an iPhone".

At this point I assume that is sufficient to process an image with a mobile phone to add the mobilestock tag.

It would be nice to understand this point, so we will be able to add more images in that collection. For examples Imhave many images taken with a Canon 5D II and processed on an iPad or iPhone to add the vintage look. It would be great to add also the mobilestock tag to that images.

Any ideas about it?
cmannphoto
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Posted Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:02AM
You might want to read the main thread again.


braddy posted this on Page 8


"A little reminder…

We've been seeing some images tagged with MobileStock that were not originally created on a mobile device. This is not in the spirit of the brief and we've stated our policy on this earlier in the thread. Don't do it - you'll only get one warning and the keywords will be removed. The second offence will yield greater penalties. Also, if you upload an image from an iPhone 4S that's XXL or bigger, we may be a little suspicious. Just sayin'"


 

(Edited on 2012-09-18 06:03:21 by cmannphoto)
MoreISO
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Posted Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:04AM
I saw it before. That's why I am confused.

We have people writing in the description of the images they used a DSLR to take the picture, I would like to understand if it is sufficient to develop the photo with an App to add the mobilestock tag, or not.
ilbusca
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Posted Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:06AM

Still not sure why people downsize and ruin photos taken with wonderful reflex cameras to be accepted in this collection.


PS: Ah ah! Found one taken with an Hasselblad! What a waste.

(Edited on 2012-09-18 06:07:51 by ilbusca)
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Posted Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:08AM

The mobilestock tag should be used for images created using a mobile device's sensor.Filtering a DSLR image with an app is still a DSLR image. The description of a file is there for that kind of processing and the keywords are reserved for what the brief states.


 
cmannphoto
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Posted Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:08AM

Maybe they did not read the thread.


Sounds to me the IS needs another keyword for "Simulated" or "Faux" MobileStock for image taken with non-phone cameras
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Posted Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:10AM

Posted By subman:

The mobilestock tag should be used for images created using a mobile device's sensor.Filtering a DSLR image with an app is still a DSLR image. The description of a file is there for that kind of processing and the keywords are reserved for what the brief states.


 


Thanks. So be conscious that at the moment there are already images taken with real DSLR cameras and with the mobilestock tag.
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Posted Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:10AM
Why is it so important to have this tag? Does having it increase downloads? As I understand it serves only for tracking the reaction to the briefing and performance of images taken on mobile devices.
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Posted Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:02AM
Posted By IBushuev:
Why is it so important to have this tag? Does having it increase downloads? As I understand it serves only for tracking the reaction to the briefing and performance of images taken on mobile devices.

Its implied - or maybe even overtly stated somewhere - that the mobile images are inspected with a different set of standards. The addition of the keyword to dslr images which have been processed to appear as being produced by say, Instagram is probably an attempt to "sneak in" images that otherwise would've been rejected for over-filtering, etc.  But yes, "mobilestock" IS being used to track the images as well.
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Posted Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:58PM
Posted By ilbusca:

Still not sure why people downsize and ruin photos taken with wonderful reflex cameras to be accepted in this collection.

PS: Ah ah! Found one taken with an Hasselblad! What a waste.


Surely a DSLR image ruined to look like a mobile image should be given the "overprocessed" or "overfiltered" rejection. You've taken a normal image and ruined it with excess processing. Add to that the above admin comments that it shouldn't be done or an action will be taken to stop you doing it. What the inspectors doing?

(Edited on 2012-09-18 15:59:23 by dcdp)
braddy
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Posted Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:17PM

Posted By gioadventures:
I saw it before. That's why I am confused.

We have people writing in the description of the images they used a DSLR to take the picture, I would like to understand if it is sufficient to develop the photo with an App to add the mobilestock tag, or not.


There's no confusion… those people who are not following the brief guidance and rules will have these assets edited and be sent a warning. After that we will take more stern measures to ensure the behaviour doesn't continue.

Obviously, the inspection also needs to be addressed.
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Posted Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:21PM
Posted By subman:

The mobilestock tag should be used for images created using a mobile device's sensor.Filtering a DSLR image with an app is still a DSLR image. The description of a file is there for that kind of processing and the keywords are reserved for what the brief states.


 

Does this apply for pictures reprocessed via an app taken from a compact camera like a Canon G12?
subman
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Posted Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:45AM
Posted By matthewleesdixon:

Posted By subman:

The mobilestock tag should be used for images created using a mobile device's sensor.Filtering a DSLR image with an app is still a DSLR image. The description of a file is there for that kind of processing and the keywords are reserved for what the brief states.


 


Does this apply for pictures reprocessed via an app taken from a compact camera like a Canon G12?

Canon G12 is a point and shoot camera as you said, so I think you answered yourself.
stockwerk
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Posted Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:22AM
The Nokia Lumia 808 has a 41 Megapixel sensor. Even scaled down this can still generate a XXXL file.

I believe buyers buy an image because the look appeals to them and not because it was created on a specific type of device.
blackwaterimages
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Posted Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:46PM
I just did a quick search for "Mobilestock" images, xl or larger. Of the very few that turn up, there are a few problems... One contributor says "Photo taken with Canon 5D mark II and retouched as Iphone photo." in the caption of a couple photos - not allowed, I believe. Another contribuor has a photo with a description that says its iPhone generated, yet the dimensions far exceed that of an iPhone. A little cleanup may be in order here, I think.
MikkoSuhonen
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Posted Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:17AM
Nokia has two Pureview products. Nokia 808 Pureview with 41MP sensor and Nokia Lumia 920 Pureview with OIS. Lumia phones have Windows Phone operating system and 808 has Nokia Belle operating system.


Posted By stockwerk:
The Nokia Lumia 808 has a 41 Megapixel sensor. Even scaled down this can still generate a XXXL file.

I believe buyers buy an image because the look appeals to them and not because it was created on a specific type of device.
STILLFX
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Posted Tue Oct 2, 2012 11:47PM

I see a couple of photos added today that are 10mp, taken with iPhone 4s...hmmm


How do you get 10mp photos from 8mp mobile phone camera?


 

(Edited on 2012-10-02 23:53:57 by STILLFX)
grebcha
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Posted Wed Oct 3, 2012 4:01AM
^magic??
MoreISO
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Posted Wed Oct 3, 2012 4:11AM
Jailbreak?
blackwaterimages
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Posted Wed Oct 3, 2012 9:08AM
Posted By STILLFX:

I see a couple of photos added today that are 10mp, taken with iPhone 4s...hmmm
How do you get 10mp photos from 8mp mobile phone camera?

As far as I know, the only way to do that would be to shoot using the iPhone panorama feature. I had a 16mp panorama accepted yesterday. 
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