PHOTO : Over-filtered monument

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El_Peyote
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Posted Tue Oct 2, 2012 10:07AM
Hi guys,


I just uploaded a batch of pictures of monuments in Bordeaux, France. 2 pictures has been accepted and the rest has been refused for being over-filtered. I used the same camera and settings for all pictures and there's not processing afterwards, it's all natural. The only thing I did was resize the pictures using GIMP as some people advised me here (and it worked before). I take my pictures in RAW to limit artifacting.


Those 2 pictures here have been taken 2 minutes apart, one has been accepted, the other not.


https://dl.dropbox.com/u/76675310/P6159284.JPG


https://dl.dropbox.com/u/76675310/P6159287.JPG


 


Thanks in advance for your insights


 

(Edited on 2012-10-02 10:09:21 by kelvinjay)

(Edited on 2012-10-02 10:27:05 by El_Peyote)
esp_imaging
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Posted Tue Oct 2, 2012 10:34AM
P6159284 isn't sharp enough. The column isn't quite vertical, there is a tiny bit of CA and the blurry birds above the trees should ideally be cloned out - they are distracting.

P6159287 could do with being a little sharper on the statues closest to camera, but is sharper than the other shot. It has quite a bit of CA which should have been removed.

Both shots need to be a little brighter overall (without burning out important highlights) and a little less contrasty - they look as though a polarizing filter has been used to darken the sky, but the effect has been overdone, hence the overfiltering rejection makes sense.

Edited to add - count yourself a little lucky if one of these did get accepted.

(Edited on 2012-10-02 10:37:19 by esp_imaging)
Difydave
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Posted Tue Oct 2, 2012 10:45AM

^ I agree with what esp said above.


You can either use the rotate, and / or perspective tool in Gimp to straighten up shots like this. Make sure when you crop back after you get all the blank edges and don't leave any slivers. I think I'd have either waited for the aircraft to go or cloned the contrail out too. You want it to be as perfect as possible with no distractions from the suject if possible, and no retouching for the designers.


Just a personal thing but i'm not really all that fond of the polarising filter look
El_Peyote
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Posted Tue Oct 2, 2012 10:46AM
Indeed I use a polarizing filter, I think it enhnace the constrast on pictures, but that's all I use.


The first one has been approved while I think the second one is better, but that's just personal opinion.


What do you mean by CA, I'm not familiar with this term.


I just made a few changes, making the picture a bit brighter with Picasa, maybe Gimp would be better for that? Is it better like that or will it be still refused?


https://dl.dropbox.com/u/76675310/number2.JPG

(Edited on 2012-10-02 10:48:09 by El_Peyote)
esp_imaging
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Posted Tue Oct 2, 2012 11:21AM
CA = Chromatic Aberration. Easily to get rid of most of it in processing.

The image is better brighter.

In addition to the issue of not being quite in focus, I think the composition is a bit weak - exactly which part of the statue is the main subject of the image?

(Edited on 2012-10-03 05:29:05 by esp_imaging)

(Edited on 2012-10-03 05:29:22 by esp_imaging)
Difydave
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Posted Tue Oct 2, 2012 11:46AM

You can use a polariser if you like, I just find that it often seems to give problems for work intended for here.


Remember you're looking at an image that has some hope of selling, not just getting an image accepted. Straightening the column and cropping the rim of the pool in the foreground, and possibly the fancy bit on the column near the top of the picture, as well as straightening the column will give a much better image with a stronger sense of the sculptures being the subject.


Learn to use the Gimp unless you decide to get Photoshop. It's among the best of the free programs. In particular learn to use Curves under Colour in the menu, and learn to use the clone and heal tools. There are lots of tutorials online.
El_Peyote
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Posted Wed Oct 3, 2012 4:58AM

Thanks a lot guys.


It seems I'm going to have to stop using the filter if I want to get my picture on here. And I'm going to look into Gimp a bit more, I'm just using it to downsize my pictures at the moment but if it could help getting more pictures accepted I will have to learn to use it.


Thanks again
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