Posted Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:17AM
Ok , so we are pretty much being kept in the dark about the future of video here, so i need to know what the deal is with video exclusivity and file/mediums not in the video category here.
Im talking 8k, 4k, and 3D.
So does istock, even without accepting or selling these mediums 'claim' exclusivity over any files in these formats produced ? As they are not video files that istock seems to want to acknowledge at all, it seems to me these are as different as photos are from video, im no lawyer, but i get the feeling that by not accepting these file formats, that exclusivity 'issues' would be on very shakey grounds due to istock being sole distributor,, but they are not distributing.
(Edited on 2012-10-10 02:23:59 by Daedalum)
Posted Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:40AM
You could also add the question of editorial video. Many exclusives have tons of editorial material that they cannot sell anywhere else. Or can they? It was one of the big advantages of going independent for me.
Maybe istock could come up with a road map when they will accept what or if they will release the exclusives for those file types.
Posted Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:48AM
good point completely forgot about that, if i remember right istock were thinking about it 3 years ago then have gone all silent ....
Posted Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:49AM
I know that at least one exclusive contributor has 3D material available elsewhere. So it's definitley an option that's available.
The issue with 4k etc - it that when it gets downsized to HD, it is in direct competition with iStock.
Posted Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:13AM
What Ben said kills the option of selling higher than Full HD anywhere else, true. But I would really like to know iStock's stand on exclusives selling editorial elsewhere. If they're not planning on taking on editorial video, this would not be competition, right?
Posted Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:16AM
but what about if you sell it as only 4k,3D, and 8k , with no downsize available, its very easy to set up a store page these days, or even if other sites add options for ' dont allow downsize .
(Edited on 2012-10-10 04:20:46 by Daedalum)
(Edited on 2012-10-10 04:21:04 by Daedalum)
Posted Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:03AM
As this is the second thread you've started on this subject, I'm guessing you have some 4K work you'd like to start selling. I'd be really interested to know the make and model of the 4K monitor you're using to check that.
Posted Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:37AM
you really dont need a 4k monitor if all you do is drawn animation and motion graphics, you just need to know what you are doing.
And a lot of the time i work higher than the end result anyway, which to me is stock going to waste, as my 'dealer' doesnt want to deal it !
its really a bit of a trolling post to try to dismiss like that though, something that many people can actually do, that want a future with their portfolios, rather let years go to waste until istock catches up with things.
Posted Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:47AM
That's kind of what I thought. You can't check the work you'd be uploading but istock would have to and they'd have to make a massive financial investment to do that. The reality here is that istock's biggest business is licensing photographs. In JPEG format.
(Edited on 2012-10-10 05:49:50 by vesperstock)
Posted Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:55AM
and thats what im worried about, if thats all they concentrate on then thats all they will be, which will leave video as a back burner while other companies fill the void, which they are currently doing.
I want , 'need', to know what istock have planned for all this, as if they do not want to go down that road, then i better go somewhere else that is wanting to go that successful video route, as thats where the future for video will be.
Posted Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:11AM
I'm pretty sure that you can sell any of your videos elsewhere as long as you're selling it Rights-Managed. But I'm not sure of any stock sites where you could do that.
Posted Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:12AM
just to add, so far this year i have had 3 personal emails asking if i had 4k ( 2 mails), and 3D(1) versions of certain clips, which i didnt as they were old clips.
In comparison ive had 2 mails asking if i did high resolution stills of a clip, and 3 ( i think it is) mails asking if i could do variations on something, even 1 phone call from hong kong at 8 in the morning asking how to composite luma mattes on a clip.
To get a mail is rare in the first place, so the market is there for these other formats.
1 sale alone per year would cover my expenses to host myself these formats, and( as far as i understand) i cant even sell my own clips at these formats on a website due to the exclusivity contract, even when they are not available here at those formats.
Posted Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:16AM
How do you know that's where the future for video will be? [edit: you answered that, at least partly; there's a professional market. Personally, I don't think there's a consumer market until the infrastructure catches up] What codecs are going to be used for 4K acquisition, mastering and distribution? Each manufacturer is doing their own thing. And 4K means ginormous amounts of data to be shuffled around and not enough infrastructure to support that for a good while yet.
(Edited on 2012-10-10 06:26:18 by vesperstock)