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HappyRojo
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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:13AM
I must confess I am completely bamboozled as to what is happening here at iStock...how does a person bottom out with 10 downloads for the month...when at his peak, was hitting close to 100?!? In 2010, I was averaging 56 downloads per month, then dropped to 41 per month last year...it is looking like (at this pace) I might average 20 per month in 2012. Awesome!! Not to mention of course that I have added about 1000 new clips in the last couple of years. Ugh. Very discouraging when you are trying to "shoot, upload and repeat" but don't really seem to benefit (here, that is) from that work/time/effort. It's just weird/frustrating and obviously speaks to many issues here at iStock...but I doubt I am alone...must...keep...shooting...Spider...senses tingling...have to...keep...shooting...can't...let...go...
vision008
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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:14PM

I hear you and agree that it is frustrating to say the least. Like yourself i had my glory days a couple of years ago but things have changed around here and everytime my sales drop i hope to myself that they wont drop anymore - but they do. 2 years ago istock was beating records month on month but now they are record beating low sales month on month. Just when i think it cant possibly get any worse, It does - so discouraging.


One thing we have to take into consideration is that us non-exclusives unfortunately are low on the priority list in the search engine and review times. So in my honest opinion the only thing you can do to better your situation is to go all out and try to raise your game and shoot, upload, repeat to your maximum ability. But this is an extremely difficult thing to do, even more so when when non-exclusives have lots of head winds to deal with.


From what i can gather, a lot of exclusives are also having a bad time however i also have seen exclusives who are doing pretty well, escpecially the ones who are uploading decent videos and increasing their portfolio month on month and then nominating vetta files so that they generally stay on the front end on the search engine. So just imagine where that puts us, I am by no means anti-exclusive, just trying to illustrate the difficulities which we as non-exclusives face. Plus add to that a general economic downturn across the developed world and a simple case of supply outstripping demand.


So basicly the glory days are gone and we have to accept that. My only advice would be keep your head down Shoot, Upload, Repeat and hope it gets better, but do not expect things to return to the way it was a couple of years ago because those days are long gone.


Just my 2 cents.
Forrestbro
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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:02PM
My downloads this year around about a third of what they were in 2010 even with consistently uploading new videos. (2008 was actually my best year for number of downloads) But with iStock price increases and more people buying HD, my actually income has stayed about the same.
jjneff
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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:05PM
I have gained income every year since I started, I don't fret over dl's just what I am earning. I see this as a business since I do this full-time. It's a wild ride but I wouldn't trade it for any other job! I just try to make better and better clips for buyers. The best investment I can make is increasing my skill set. I have a lot to learn and a long way to go but what is life without risk?
amriphoto
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Posted Thu Nov 1, 2012 1:44AM

It´s the end of October, so I had a look at my stats. They are more than depressing.


I started out as a video contributor on March 1st 2007. And guess what: October 2012 was the first month I had less DLs than I had back then. At the end of March 2007 I had 45 files online and in the same month I had more DLs than this very October (I currently have more than 1.500 videofiles)!!! But wait, it doesn´t stop here: talking about royalties. April 2007 was my second month here, and it exceeded October 2012 in $$$.


 
toomasili
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Posted Thu Nov 1, 2012 1:55AM
I'm glad this isn't my main source of income, as I'd be living under a tree by now. I'm also glad this aint my day job, because this gave me the freedom to drop exclusivity here and see how things are with other agencies. Might be better, might be worse, but I'll never know until I try it.

(Edited on 2012-11-01 02:10:42 by toomasili)
Bafan4u
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Posted Thu Nov 1, 2012 5:26AM
I stopped shooting clips for istock... completely. It doesnt make sense, If I had some decent stimulating income when I had only 40 clips online a year ago, now with 400 clips and not even one download. Sorry to say, but many stock agencies are colapsing because their marketing sux very much. Why would I make expenses for making clips, if I can't pay them off.

(Edited on 2012-11-01 05:27:19 by Bafan4u)
editboy23
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Posted Thu Nov 1, 2012 8:26AM

I'm also glad this is not my bread and butter, but a way to make extra money.  Lately, however, i'm not getting much bread OR butter. 


I think what i'm most frustrated at is the lack of explanation as to why this has been happening.  Last month (October) I made 4% of what I've made the past 2 Octobers.  Or did I, since money randomly shows up on my balance with no record of what I've sold??


I'm beyond frustrated.  I've broken my exclusivity to see what the rest of the stock world holds.  Who knows, maybe I'll return after a while.
jjneff
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Posted Thu Nov 1, 2012 10:49AM
Its the greatest job in the world
3dmentat
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Posted Fri Nov 2, 2012 5:51AM

I see pretty good trend at the moment. My sales are growing along with the size of the portfolio. There is much more competition than 3 years ago when I started, but we always try to deliver best quality we can for Istock and it pays back. There are still many unexplored subjects and also many need refreshing, they simply look outdated. Especially in CG side of stock video.


We also are going for diamond royalty level in few weeks (in old pre-RC system I would still be on silver). I can't complain.
kk5hy
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Posted Fri Nov 2, 2012 7:01AM
Posted By jjneff:
Its the greatest job in the world smile


Totally agree! this is the best job. Who else can say they shoot video on their vacation and sell it...


The last two months has turned around a slump that started over a year ago here at Istock. hope that is a trend. The other sites I sell at are an all time high. Last month we made more than any other month since we started this crazyness.


 Agree with some of the comments, a lot of competition. But you have to shoot something different and continue to evolve to stand out or you will be swallowed.
funky-data
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Posted Fri Nov 2, 2012 8:06AM
Posted By 3dmentat:

I see pretty good trend at the moment. My sales are growing along with the size of the portfolio. There is much more competition than 3 years ago when I started, but we always try to deliver best quality we can for Istock and it pays back. There are still many unexplored subjects and also many need refreshing, they simply look outdated. Especially in CG side of stock video.

We also are going for diamond royalty level in few weeks (in old pre-RC system I would still be on silver). I can't complain.

Congratulations! I don't know anything about CG-3D stuff but you have very specific material.
alatriste1
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Posted Fri Nov 2, 2012 8:23AM

I'm grad that some people on the CGI side is doing well. I guess I have to start uploading again to keep this the way it use to be.
eyalster
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Posted Sun Nov 4, 2012 1:51AM

The way I see it, the slow deterioration in sales started in the minute the istock pen touched that gettyimages contract.


The whole Idea istock was build upon was great photo for 1-3 $. that was the way they treat video as well, in the beginning of videos here on the site.


But in the minute istock became a brench of getty, it was obvious things will change. the whole idea of getty buying istock was to control this new Microstock thing that gave clients the ability to buy a 2500$ shot they used to buy in getty, artbeats or corbis-motion in just 50$


The rules have change and getty (image bank) wanted to restrain it.


That was the point where HD video started to climb up to 90$, that was the point where veta started, selling the same videos which you could buy in 70$, now in 150-200$. that was the point where buyers started to find most of the videos here in other agencies for half the price.


add to this the enormous video collection, and the huge competition for every search word you can imagin, and you can understand the current situation. 


As for myself, I feel the drop in sales, but only slighly... also, I hav'nt add a singel video in two years now, so I can't complain that my sales droped a bit. but the truth is that if I review my own video collection, I must admit that from the 201 files I have, its only 15-20 files that have a steady sales, the majority of my files have vanished in the istock oblivion....
HappyRojo
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Posted Mon Nov 5, 2012 1:50PM
Posted By jjneff:
Its the greatest job in the world smile

No question there JJ...but like any "job"...it is also nice to be properly and fairly rewarded/paid by the "company" and treated with some basic respect etc. I feel like many of us signed up "back in the day" when things were different here but then they felt it "fair" to lower everyone's "pay" to suit their needs etc. Not to mention we have to put up with poor communication here along with plenty of issues with "the system" that make it a challenge for many of us to achieve decent sales anymore (ie. bugs, BM search problems, speed etc). That's the part that is hard to swallow...
lycian
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Posted Tue Nov 6, 2012 3:28AM
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Posted By HappyRojo:
I must confess I am completely bamboozled as to what is happening here at iStock...how does a person bottom out with 10 downloads for the month...when at his peak, was hitting close to 100?!? In 2010, I was averaging 56 downloads per month, then dropped to 41 per month last year...it is looking like (at this pace) I might average 20 per month in 2012. Awesome!! Not to mention of course that I have added about 1000 new clips in the last couple of years. Ugh. Very discouraging when you are trying to "shoot, upload and repeat" but don't really seem to benefit (here, that is) from that work/time/effort. It's just weird/frustrating and obviously speaks to many issues here at iStock...but I doubt I am alone...must...keep...shooting...Spider...senses tingling...have to...keep...shooting...can't...let...go...



Dear HappyRojo, exactly same situation. I can't understand. How is such a big change?


I know; probably I can't earn 100 USD this month.

(Edited on 2012-11-06 03:32:50 by lycian)
Maulsmasher
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Posted Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:35PM
I think there are some things that haven't been considered. Most people can get there hands on a decent enough camera to shoot their own footage that may be good enough for their tastes (probably not ours). Cameras just have become better and cheaper and software has become even more easily available. That mixed with the video tutorial age has lead to past customers now doing it themselves. I think this mixed with a down economy has hit most art and design industries. You just can't get by doing large amounts of just OKAY work...you have to do great work that really stands out...in short we all have to let go of the easy and embrace the hard if we want to make a dent.

On a seperate, but related note, I agree there is some outdated footage here. I don't know if iStock knocks videos out, but maybe they should scour video age versus recent sales and put some kind of threshold. Hitting a dated video is a turn-off especially when there is so much competition.

In the end though, I think it is up to content creators to create better and more desirable content...quality over quantity seems to do better in this age...it's not 2007 anymore smile

(Edited on 2013-01-16 17:38:39 by Maulsmasher)
hiredweapon
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Posted Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:53PM

Very disturbing. A huge drop in the past 2 months after a few years of very steady earnings. 


Add in many new clips added. Clips that were doing great 4 or 5 months ago. 


Now, all of a sudden, dry!
jjneff
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Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:28AM
Sales here have all but stopped considering what they use to be! At this point I am racing on with plan B
3dmentat
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Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:34AM

What happened with buyers ? Are they scared of by the high prices ? Or by the irrelevant search ? 


Anyway... Massive exclusive exhodus is starting now.
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