Should RC target be decreased?

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damircudic
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:24AM
Beacause of known problems with site few last months, should it be fair that iStock decrease RC targets for 2013? It's not contributors' fault for decreased sales. What do you think?


Thank you.


Damir Cudic

(Edited on 2012-11-29 02:35:21 by damircudic)
Imgorthand
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:35AM

Damir, yes they should.


But instead they will lock this thread.


They introduced this system to make more money.
Talaj
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:02AM
YES
kelvinjay
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:04AM
In case you missed it, it has already been stated that the RC targets are not going to be reduced. So I really wouldn't get your hopes up. I shall leave this open for now as, theoretically at least, there is a 1% chance it won't just turn into a sales thread. But when it does turn into just another sales thread, I guess I'll be back to close it.
LEOcrafts
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:06AM
Yes it should be decrease, because sales drop is not ours problem....IS should take the responsibilty of this. If IS is really taking care of its valuable contributor, they will decrease the RC target for 2013!
Imgorthand
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:14AM

Last year I missed my new RC target by 5% - the sole reason was my individual IS bug that disconnected me from search for a month.


Guess if they grandfathered me to the missed target


So - no - we are not getting any RC reductions just because IS made 1001 bugs.
funky-data
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:17AM
Let's try to discuss this without getting into sales issues (will be difficult). The problem is that there were issues regarding BM and it was also acknowledged by IS in the recent weeks. So, I think, I have the right to ask 'what was the impact of this problem on sales?'. I see that there are people complaining about drop of sales in the last 2 months related with the BM. I would also think that some people would sell as usual or even more because of this problem.

If you were making calculations about reaching the next RC level in the last 3 months and BM does make it more difficult for you, you may request a decrease on RC targets.
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:23AM

Posted By kelvinjay:
I shall leave this open for now as, theoretically at least, there is a 1% chance it won't just turn into a sales thread. But when it does turn into just another sales thread, I guess I'll be back to close it.


Thank god you're here to look after us Kelvin, I don't know what we'd do without you.
kelvinjay
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:33AM
I know, right?
cobalt
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:45AM
When they announced the targets and said they wouldn´t be changed they didn´t know that there would be a BM bug coming with a bias against E+ content.

I am sure when they have fixed the problem, they will adjust targets accordingly. After all, if istock puts our content at the back of a search - what can we do?

(Edited on 2012-11-29 03:46:14 by cobalt)
Imgorthand
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:49AM

The RC targets could stay only if serious bugs are fixed in a week timeframe.


I completely don't understand why crippled BM is allowed to run for couple of weeks. It should've been fixed the day after it was intreduced.
Unless BM is broken in intentional way to archive specific goals.
But I don't see what kind of goal can be archieved by showing similar series (moderately related to keywords) on top of BM searches.
Zoom is being restored for 3 months. No further comments.

(Edited on 2012-11-29 03:50:34 by Imgorthand)
ryasick
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:56AM

Due to the abrupt negative impact since the upgrade in September for so many of us contributers, I agree that iStock should lower the RC level to adjust for all the bugs that still plague the system. After all, IS has admitted to there being a problem which is currently being researched. I'm sure that everything was moving along normally for a great many of us before September 5th. If the upgrade went smoothly - meaning, without bugs, then I'm sure none of us would be having this discussion right now.


Personally, what had once been an easy RC target to hit 3 months ago (especially with the "meat" of sales coming up in Sept and Oct), now looks to be out of reach due to what has been going on since September. How sad and disappointing if iStock refuses to recognize a need to adjust the bar.
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:29AM

By lowering the targets would therefore be an admission that there have been problems which i doubt they would want to admit, what company does?


No, instead they will keep the targets unchanged.
vkbhat
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:31AM

Each time I contacted contributor relations about sales related questions before September 2012, the routineanswer was to wait for the normal bump during the last 4 months of the year that is when my portfolio did well based on the past experience. Then this site upgrade came on September 4th and since then things have taken downhill. I had a very high hope to make it to the next royalty evel by end of the year based on post September data. Now the hope is shattered due to various site related issues beyond my control. If the goal of the RC system is to reward hard working contributors, then IS will seriously consider lowering the RC targets. I have stopped keeping high hopes here based on the experience here lately and In my opinion the decison IS will make on RC targets will be a testimony for how well the hardworking contributors are valued. 
damircudic
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:35AM
Posted By kelvinjay: I shall leave this open for now as, theoretically at least, there is a 1% chance it won't just turn into a sales thread. But when it does turn into just another sales thread, I guess I'll be back to close it.

So, RC targets has nothing in common with sales??? We can discuss about RC targets, but can not about sales? What is RC targets about then? Tell us, and we will discuss.
Imgorthand
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:40AM

> If the goal of the RC system is to reward hard working contributors, then IS will seriously consider lowering the RC targets.


No Vishwanath, the goal of RC system was not to reward hard working contributors.
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:51AM
I can promise you that iStock will lower the RCs when hell freezes over!
damircudic
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:56AM

Simply said: All these problems are not our fault and iStock should lower RC targets. It would be fair.
Imgorthand
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:03AM

I agree Damir. But still - this doesn't matter if this is our fault or not. It doesn't matter if it's fair or not.


It's businness.
zmeel
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Posted Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:07AM
Posted By damircudic:

Simply said: All these problems are not our fault and iStock should lower RC targets. It would be fair.

They will not lower the RC targets. Why would they? It will only make them earn less money. You might think they will do it for us? I don't think so. They don't care about us any more. They stopped doing that a long time ago.
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