Google Stealing Images, or Another "Deal"

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microgen
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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:31AM
Oh boy, very disturbing indeed. And if this mess becomes bad news, like with Instagram recently, we'll be fully out of business, all together with our beloved agency.
oldladybird
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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:32AM
Hey Everyone, let's not jump to conclusions. It doesn't do anyone any good. I am working to get details on this. What I do know for sure is that it's neither a scam nor a duplication of the Microsoft deal.
NicolasMcComber
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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:33AM

Do we even know if GI/Itsock/other agencies involved agreed to this and got compensation for it or Google just picked images they liked, removed exif data and put them out there with a "Use at your own risk" notice? If that's the case our anger should be directed at them... Of course with the scam site still online, I'm not holding my breath on prompt action to stop this from our distributor. Is there an address to write to Google directly and say: "I'm the copyright owner of images such and such and did not agree to this use, please remove my images from your app at once"?


Speaking of agreement, where can I opt out of promotional use?


What is the definition of promotional use and how can this possibly fit that definition?
sodafish
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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:34AM

Brenda, could we have answers to these too:
- Are there any other programs like MS and Google running at the moment, or planned in the near future. 
- Why is copyright information removed from these images.
- Why weren't we informed. 
blueflames
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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:35AM
Funny, the top search term on google trends for istockphoto.com  is "istockphoto.com free".  I don't guess its happenstance.  

(Edited on 2013-01-10 07:38:17 by blueflames)
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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:35AM
Posted By Juanmonino:
I would squeeze google in court up to the last penny.
We need a union.

definitly need a union.
JamesBrey
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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:36AM
No respect at all.  They could at least include the Metadata and proper copyright information originally placed in the file by the artist.  I would think that the act of removing that information, placed there by the true and valid Copyright holder, is in itself against the law, certainly against the spirit of all copyright laws.  The copyrights we hold are still active on those images, and anyone in the world downloading and using the images should see that information!
haoliang
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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:39AM

anyway,we need know some information about that.


it is not everthing we find and we talk in here.what you do,you should let us know.


does it make sence?
dhanford
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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:39AM
I cannot see how any of this is could possibly be a benefit to us contributors. If there is a major alteration to the way iStock will be "managing" it's contributors in the future, and I strongly suspect there is something in the works, contributors need to know immediately so we can decide whether we want to be a part of it or make plans to drop exclusivity. Things are bad enough now that you may as well "let the other shoe drop", we are all weary from waiting.

(Edited on 2013-01-10 07:46:15 by dhanford)
Juanmonino
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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:41AM

Posted By oldladybird:
Hey Everyone, let's not jump to conclusions. It doesn't do anyone any good. I am working to get details on this. What I do know for sure is that it's neither a scam nor a duplication of the Microsoft deal.

It is a scam, nomatter how you look at it.
MichaelJay
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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:54AM

As I already posted in the other thread this morning, it's a deal between Thinkstock and Google - it was announced in August 2012, and the images went live in December.


Don't ask me for details, though, as I got all this from Google+ and a Google blog.
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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:58AM
Things are getting every day worst here !!!
4FR
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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:58AM
Maybe it's time to federate into an union of all exclusive iStockers?!


Agree. Istocks legel department seems to overwhelmed by the issues. We have been also waiting for a half year now on those fraud 20% on currency conversion while istock is trying to keep us calm with promises. Almost every month we find a new issue.


Istock won't take us serious until us exclusives stand up all together.


I've had enough of those stalling tactics, false promises and fraud strategies!
matthewleesdixon
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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:58AM

Found some of mine, and several Vetta's of other contributors with no backlinks or any licence info.


Just downloaded a nice Vetta 1600 x 466 px wide pic with no watermark for free.
All IPTC and meta data is stripped so there is no way of knowing where the picture came from.


iStock must have approved this, I don't see how un-watermarked pictures could get in there otherwise.
cobalt
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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:00AM
If it is Thinkstock and Google, how did the vetta files get in there?
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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:00AM
It can't be just Thinkstock since they are finding Vetta images there.  Thinkstock shouldn't have access to Vetta images.

Posted By MichaelJay:

As I already posted in the other thread this morning, it's a deal between Thinkstock and Google - it was announced in August 2012, and the images went live in December.
matthewleesdixon
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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:01AM
Posted By MichaelJay:

As I already posted in the other thread this morning, it's a deal between Thinkstock and Google - it was announced in August 2012, and the images went live in December.


Don't ask me for details, though, as I got all this from Google+ and a Google blog.

Brilliant so the Vetta's are coming in via Thinkstock?
EdgeofReasonCLOSED
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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:02AM
I'm speechless. IS and the powers that be, if you weren't in damage-control mode before, now might be a good time to get there, and fast.
cmannphoto
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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:03AM
Posted By matthewleesdixon:


Posted By MichaelJay:

As I already posted in the other thread this morning, it's a deal between Thinkstock and Google - it was announced in August 2012, and the images went live in December.


Don't ask me for details, though, as I got all this from Google+ and a Google blog.



Brilliant so the Vetta's are coming in via Thinkstock?


From the ones I found they have GETTY image numbers, but are IS VETTAs

(Edited on 2013-01-10 08:04:27 by cmannphoto)
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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:06AM

Posted By MichaelJay:
As I already posted in the other thread this morning, it's a deal between Thinkstock and Google - it was announced in August 2012, and the images went live in December.

Don't ask me for details, though, as I got all this from Google+ and a Google blog.


Well, it isn't Thinkstock alone, obviously, as I don't have any images there. The fact that they seem to be Vettas would indicate it is Getty "proper" putting us over a barrel, thinking they can just give away our work because it has been ported up there. I will wait to hear a response before formulating my response to this. However, if I have to formulate a response to this, it will also include the MS deal, and anything similar.

When I mouse over the tiny image in the search box, and check the exif, my info display does show my name, but that certainly doesn't help me in any way, and isn't included in the large version.

I don't think this is Getty taking them from somewhere, as they are obviously included in a selection of "Stock Photos". The separate category indicates there is a distinction between these and just using the google search.

(Edited on 2013-01-10 08:07:18 by sjlocke)
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