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ftwitty
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Posted Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:33AM
Posted By antb:

Posted By ftwitty:

Tom, this is why I never opted into the PP to begin with and why I railed so strongly against it. The future writing was on the wall. This is a travesty of the 'agent'/artist relationship. Quite possibly actionable too. It is a real shame, but hardly surprising - particularly considering all that has passed the last couple of years. It is no fun when optimism gets hit with a dose of reality!


I thought E+ and Vetta were also ending up on the Goole drive or is it just PP?


You're correct - it is E+ and Vetta too. Nothing can be done about that without deactivating the files.
meldayus
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Posted Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:43AM

I think it's probable that the iStock staffs knew nothing about this deal themselves until it was brought to their attention in these forums.  If this is the case, they're probably in the difficult position of having to defend something they didn't know about and may not agree with.  It's probably easier for them to say nothing, and wait for an official response from Getty, than to come in here with some half-hearted attempt at an explanation.


It's distressing that images are still being transferred over to Google, but it may well be that this was part of the original deal paid for by Google. For Getty to stop the transfer of images would likely break their contract with Google, and I'm sure that Getty would rather face the wrath of the contributors (which may or may not result in a lawsuit) than the wrath of Google (which almost definitely would).


For these same reasons, I can't see that these images are going to come down off Google at the request of Getty.  I think the only feasible way of getting the images removed is to create so much bad publicity that it embarrasses Google into removing them.  They probably don't care what a bunch of photographers think, but they do care what the average man in the street thinks.  So, I suggest that, those of you who have the ways and means, get the message out to as many of your non-photographer friends/contacts/colleagues as possible.


As a final point, I'll add my name to the list of photographers who will be removing their content on Feb 2, if nothing more positive is forthcoming from Getty.
jtyler
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Posted Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:17AM
Posted By ftwitty:

Posted By antb:


Posted By ftwitty:

Tom, this is why I never opted into the PP to begin with and why I railed so strongly against it. The future writing was on the wall. This is a travesty of the 'agent'/artist relationship. Quite possibly actionable too. It is a real shame, but hardly surprising - particularly considering all that has passed the last couple of years. It is no fun when optimism gets hit with a dose of reality!



I thought E+ and Vetta were also ending up on the Goole drive or is it just PP?



You're correct - it is E+ and Vetta too. Nothing can be done about that without deactivating the files.

My understanding is that deactivating does not remove what is already there.  There is no way we can remove them re: IS, last I heard.  Same as deactivating doea not make the ones you sold disappear from peoples's lightboxes who DL'ed them.  I'm behanid a few days on reading posts, so I may be wrong.
secablue
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Posted Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:46AM
Posted By Westbury:
I think its Vetta and PP at the moment



E+ images are available on Getty, but not the PP sites, unless you have selected your E+ images individually into the PP (which I have not).   However I am eagerly awaiting information from HQ to clarify this and confirm E+ can't be re-sold by Getty in a similar deal.   With the lack of communication from HQ, I am ready to de-activate all my E+ files to be safe (if there is such a term with IS now?)...


followed by an email to Getty formally requesting removal of all my images from their site and written confirmation that my files will NOT be sold in such a way.  If there is anything legal in the ASA between myself and IS allowing Getty to continue to sell my images after I have deactivated them, I will be requesting this in writing, as I am legally entitled to read it since all ASA/contracts must be given to both Parties involved.


 

(Edited on 2013-01-22 09:51:22 by secablue)
jjneff
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Posted Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:25AM
Sales are down for just about everyone and with the RC system that is not looking so good. If nothing changes I predict a good size exodus on Feb.2 and a massive one at the end of the year if sales stay lower this year. Its amazing to say that iStock could be marginalized in 12 months or less unless they act. They are acting as if they are to big to fail and we will regret leaving. We might in the short term but at this current rate not for long.
Claudia_Valenzuela
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Posted Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:28AM
Is this mess going to include vector files, or .jpgs of the vector files?
mikemcd
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Posted Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:15PM
JPGs of vector files, as far as I've heard and seen.
Cybernesco
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Posted Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:33PM
So far the Feb 2nd projected total of files being deactivated or deleted is 32,634+ 


 


 

(Edited on 2013-01-22 12:38:58 by Cybernesco)
Claudia_Valenzuela
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Posted Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:54PM
Posted By mikemcd:
JPGs of vector files, as far as I've heard and seen.


damn, I thought Illustrators were safe. In that case, I'm officialy joining the Feb 2nd bandwagon


I know I have a tiny portfolio but I want to be supportive...
Cybernesco
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Posted Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:58PM
Posted By Claudia_Valenzuela:

Posted By mikemcd:
JPGs of vector files, as far as I've heard and seen.



damn, I thought Illustrators were safe. In that case, I'm officialy joining the Feb 2nd bandwagon


I know I have a tiny portfolio but I want to be supportive...

Therefore so far the Feb 2nd projected total of files being deactivated or deleted is 32,668+ 
tjhunt
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Posted Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:34PM
Posted By Cybernesco:

Posted By Claudia_Valenzuela:


Posted By mikemcd:
JPGs of vector files, as far as I've heard and seen.




damn, I thought Illustrators were safe. In that case, I'm officialy joining the Feb 2nd bandwagon


I know I have a tiny portfolio but I want to be supportive...


Therefore so far the Feb 2nd projected total of files being deactivated or deleted is 32,668+ 

So less than one third of one percent (0.00266%) if you go by the 12.3 million total file count in this thread. Of course disabling files on principle and because of the real threat of IP loss is most important. If the idea is to also impact iS somehow, you'd likely do much better going to the press, or getting a lawyer.
PickStock
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Posted Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:39PM

^Pretty small in the big picture really.


Listen, Exodus would be the only way out. Removing the complete portfolio from iStock and Getty. Thats it.


Then you wait for upto 90 days for all your stuff to be removed. 


I never had anything in the PP because of this. And Once I see any of my work going out free then I'm out. There are other fish in the sea.


It would be some work. But It could be done. 


I really don't want to go down that road, but if it happens in the big picture, you, I , or anyone else leaves iStock and Getty will still be here.
jfairone
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Posted Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:41PM
Posted By tjhunt:

Posted By Cybernesco:


Posted By Claudia_Valenzuela:



Posted By mikemcd:
JPGs of vector files, as far as I've heard and seen.





damn, I thought Illustrators were safe. In that case, I'm officialy joining the Feb 2nd bandwagon


I know I have a tiny portfolio but I want to be supportive...



Therefore so far the Feb 2nd projected total of files being deactivated or deleted is 32,668+ 


So less than one third of one percent (0.00266%) if you go by the 12.3 million total file count in this thread. Of course disabling files on principle and because of the real threat of IP loss is most important. If the idea is to also impact iS somehow, you'd likely do much better going to the press, or getting a lawyer.

I think all three options are possible.
grebcha
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Posted Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:12PM
Posted By tjhunt:

Posted By Cybernesco:


Posted By Claudia_Valenzuela:



Posted By mikemcd:
JPGs of vector files, as far as I've heard and seen.





damn, I thought Illustrators were safe. In that case, I'm officialy joining the Feb 2nd bandwagon


I know I have a tiny portfolio but I want to be supportive...



Therefore so far the Feb 2nd projected total of files being deactivated or deleted is 32,668+ 


So less than one third of one percent (0.00266%) if you go by the 12.3 million total file count in this thread. Of course disabling files on principle and because of the real threat of IP loss is most important. If the idea is to also impact iS somehow, you'd likely do much better going to the press, or getting a lawyer.

small things can lead to big problems,like a wasp inside B-52 pilots cockpit ... even if it is just a fraction of a percent it still counts for added bonus you don't have to worry about that crap anymore
alanphillips
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Posted Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:07PM
Posted By meldayus:

I think it's probable that the iStock staffs knew nothing about this deal themselves until it was brought to their attention in these forums.  If this is the case, they're probably in the difficult position of having to defend something they didn't know about and may not agree with.  It's probably easier for them to say nothing, and wait for an official response from Getty, than to come in here with some half-hearted attempt at an explanation.

That sounds about right. In the OP Mr Erin did say they are talking with Google.
These sort of talks take time. I mean its not like saying, "Oi, there's a lot of folks unhappy about this, you'd better turn off the tap and lose all those millions of dollars." No, its going to be some hard talks. And yes, I do believe that iStock were not fully aware of what was going on behind the Getty scenes ... not that ignorance of events makes anything better for iStock contributors (and stock image producers etc around the world). I also believe that the powers that be are working hard to resolve this issue to give the best solution possible.
I just hope that this is all worked out before too many people cut off their noses to spite their own faces.  

(Edited on 2013-01-22 17:17:42 by alanphillips)
Juanmonino
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Posted Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:40PM
After this thing, anything is possible here. Corporate greed has no limit. Looks like this deal was made before the company changed ownership, as part of a final "harvesting". The fact that they did it silently shows clearly that they knew they were betraying the contributors that deposit their work in their hands in good faith.
Therefore, everybody here know that these guys can and will do anything they want without any second thought on the consequences, for the industry. For the contributors . And even for their own company that loose more and more credibility day after day. And credibility and trust, after you loose it, it is almost impossible to get it back.
GeneralMedia
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Posted Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:46PM
and they steel keep transfer images to google  12,003 now
Dirima
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Posted Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:24AM
My images will not go to google, i do what i can so i have deactivated my full portfolio. Not much, 539 files. But is all that i have in 8 months of hard work with the upload limit. 


Such kind of acts are unassumable and a shame. not anything goes. My work will be safe in another place. If this situation is not resolved, I will have to delete my account. Sad.

(Edited on 2013-01-23 02:24:52 by Dirima)

(Edited on 2013-01-23 02:26:19 by Dirima)
GavinD
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Posted Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:55AM

When I look at the amount of work I have put into uploading, keywording, cross-promoting, refining keywords (when I have discovered that I omitted some that I didn't know of) to get my port up to about 800 images it makes me sick to think of deactivating them. What it must be like for those with ports in the many thousands then I can barely imagine the distress.


The sad fact is that iStock is never going to be like it was. Too many idiotic decisions, clueless IT istaff, shocking marketing programmes, lack of investment, derisory and worsening commisions and a host of unfair policies.
razberry
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Posted Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:04AM
I posted this in another exclusive discussion but I wanted to post it here to and a +1 to the members who dont want their files on Goggle:

I have been following this recent fiasco.

A little background: I have been with this site since 2003. Mainly as a vector artist. I quit uploading around 2009 because of all the crazy changes with the change over from iStock to Getty. I think the straw that broke the this camels back was the Partner Program. The site changed mentality, Bruce left, I heard statements from Admins like "your not doing it for the money". I just couldn't leave my eggs in this basket. I have kept my exclusivity status and just come in to check up how much income/stats occasionally. My main issue was, I really loved this site and like any relationship where one person wanted to go in a different direction (iStock) but the other was happy with the status-quo and didnt want drastic changes (me) I was a little heartbroken and couldn't stand watching the downfall of this grass roots company through the forums. A lively, creative, inspiring place turned into a shit storm and an Us vs Them mentality. Really not good for my blood pressure.

Fast forward to 2012 I got an email from iStock (non personal mind you) asking me to come back and they missed me as an illustrator. I thought why not throw up a few files and see how they do. I was happy to be uploading again and it was fun, I was inspired, it was like coming back and visiting a old friend for coffee. When I first came back I saw "changes in the way we communicated" and thought coolness! Then a week or so later I see the thread from Sean and thought well Poop!

I don't want my files given away for free on google or anywhere else!

I have never opted into any partner program, E+, Vetta, Agency, or Super Duper Collection of Awesomeness because I wasn't sure how my files would be handled. I wanted to keep it simple. Now I have this new worry... Is google going to get their hands on my files and give them away for free? Geeeez.

(Edited on 2013-01-23 03:06:49 by razberry)
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