Clipart.com Partner Program Mirroring

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bortonia
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Posted Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:25AM
I just wanted to give everyone a head's up that we will be moving some of the old clipart.com vector content into the Partner Program. In order to do so, it will be uploaded to iStock to a non-Exclusive contributor account so that it can be mirrored on Thinkstock and Photos.com.

These files will be very tightly curated: We're only moving the content that we feel still has a chance at selling. It's a very small portion of the overall collection of vectors still on clipart.com.

The files will go through the normal inspection process and will be subject to all the usual contributor rules such as the weekly upload limits. This way the files won't spam Best Match.

The files will eventually be moved to our Value Collection (formerly the Dollar Bin) once they've mirrored on the Partner Program sites.

We wanted to let you know in case you happened to recognize any of the content: This isn't an infringem, it's wholly owned content from Getty Images.

If anyone has any questions just let me know!
daveturton
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Posted Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:32PM
It's still going to drown us out in the search results if you dump all that low quality art in the search results right? What's the total number being migrated? 
ARTPUPPY
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Posted Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:56PM
I'm interested to know too. Based on a quick search of clipart.com, I see a little over 36000 files. Is Getty also planning on uploading it's vector artwork from it's other assets to istock? As far as I know, they also own the "100,000"+ cilp art CD & book collections that used to be so popular in the late 1980s. How is this not going to affect the best match?
dhanford
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Posted Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:21AM
Does this mean they are going migrate clipart.com to photos.com and thinkstock.com? Are they going to "mirror" our vector content to clipart.com too? Does anyone know how long the migration to iS will take? I would like to take this as a sign that the BM must be well on it's way to being sorted out, otherwise, I just have to shake my head.
FreeTransform
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Posted Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:45AM
Link to "contributor" clipartdotcom.
bortonia
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Posted Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:27PM
Posted By daveturton: It's still going to drown us out in the search results if you dump all that low quality art in the search results right?


I personally don't think this is even a possibility: This is a regular non-Exclusive contributor account managed by my team, so only 40 files can be added per week.

Any new contributor can upload the same number of files and I don't think I've ever seen a single contributor 'drown out' the BM results given our upload limits! Plus, remember these files are destined for the Value Collection so they'll have very limited search placement anyways.

What's the total number being migrated? 
Does anyone know how long the migration to iS will take?


Not very many, maybe 2,000 total. At 40 uploads per week it'll take almost exactly a full year for them to come online. The portfolio growth rate will be the exact same as it would be for any new contributor submitting to iStock.

And again, we're only taking the content that we feel has a chance of selling on the Partner Program sites: This will be a very, very tightly curated batch of files.

I'll try to be as tactful as I can here but let's be honest, most of the content from clipart.com is, um… Not really what we're looking for

Posted by ArtPuppy: Is Getty also planning on uploading it's vector artwork from it's other assets to istock? As far as I know, they also own the "100,000"+ cilp art CD & book collections that used to be so popular in the late 1980s.


Definitely not!!!

This project is only about salvaging the best content from Clipart.com so that it can be sold through the PP.

Posted by dhanford: Does this mean they are going migrate clipart.com to photos.com and thinkstock.com? Are they going to "mirror" our vector content to clipart.com too?


Yes, the goal of this was to move these files into the Partner Program. The only way to do this was to bring them onto iStock so they'll be flagged for mirroring, because we have no other way of transferring them from clipart.com to Thinkstock and Photos.com (clipart.com isn't a part of the GI connector system for the PP mirroring).

And absolutely not, our content won't be mirrored on clipart.com!

Edited to add: I just re-read dhanford's question and think I misunderstood initially. If you're asking if all the files on clipart.com will be mirrored in the PP, no they won't. Because clipart.com isn't part of the connector the files need to be uploaded manually on iStock in order to move to the PP, so only the ones we're choosing will end up being mirrored.

Sorry I misread your question before!

(Edited on 2013-01-26 18:17:52 by bortonia)
bortonia
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Posted Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:50PM
I'd also like to add, this project is entirely my initiative. I'm totally OK with taking full responsibility here if anything weird happens. I did my best to make sure that the mirroring of these files is done as fairly as possible: No bulk migrations, a regular contributor account, and then moving them to the dollar bin after they've mirrored to the PP sites.

And I promise: If for some reason these files sell like crazy and dominate our BM then we'll figure out a solution immediately. That being said, I think the odds of this happening are extremely unlikely.

My sole goal here is to see if any of this content has a shot at a second life in the Partner Program.

I've always felt that, while the bulk of the content on clipart.com is, erm, not really suitable for stock (again, I'm trying hard to be tactful!), there are a few files there that could still be useable. We're only choosing files that if they were uploaded by any contributor they'd have been approved. There's no special treatment.

And with a little TLC and some color adjustments, I really do feel that some of this stuff is still useable. If I'm wrong, no biggie, they'll just live on the PP sites and in our Value Collection (where low selling files end up anyways). Still, I hope some of them get a second chance on Thinkstock or Photos.com. I feel like they've been neglected

(Edited on 2013-01-26 17:51:09 by bortonia)
Susan_Stewart
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Posted Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:04PM
Point of interest: At least with photos, value collection now shows up on regular searches (which has resulted in some sales for me - nearly half my Totally moribund January sales are value collection files, but I don't have any value collection illustrations to check if it's the same with vectors)
bortonia
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Posted Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:10PM
Interesting, I didn't know that! Thanks for letting me know, I'll try some tests from my own portfolio. It's been so long since I had a VC sale (probably over a year) that I never noticed. Also, my VC stuff is absolute crap so I doubt it'd sell even if it was the #1 result in every search on iStock Apologies for the misinformation, I'll check on my end and edit my post.

Either way, though: Like I said, if these files end up at the top of every search then we'll figure out a solution. But I really, really don't think that this is likely. I'll keep an eye on things to make sure, though
Susan_Stewart
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Posted Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:15PM
My view is that there would be a whole lot less angst on the part of istock contributors if the various Getty collection photo files had been ingested into the istock collection this way-let the files be judged on their merits, subject to the upload limits of other contributors -which would be increased according to how the files sold. If these assets must be included in istock this is definitely a decent way of going about it.
ARTPUPPY
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Posted Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:22PM
Bortonia: Thanks so much for your quick reply (and answers) to our questions. it puts a bit more light on this. It's appreciated concidering what else has been going on the last few months.
FreeTransform
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Posted Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:11PM
Agree with Susan_Stewart and ARTPUPPY above. It's too bad there's so much bad blood here that we assume the worst. But thanks Bortonia for clarifying. Sounds like iStock is just a way station for the clipart files on their journey to the Dollar Bin
dhanford
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Posted Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:13AM
Thank you, Jenn for breaking down the details. Anymore, it is difficult to view any ingestion of wholly owned image libraries as a good thing for individual contributors. But I take you at your word.
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