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lostinbids
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Posted Fri Feb 8, 2013 8:22AM

I really can't believe that nothing has changed.  Yes, there may not have been coding changes but there has have to have been a change in the way views are counted. 


The 14 files I uploaded in August got 310 views and 23 dls, the 61 uploaded in September got 207 views and 45 dls.  Either my files became super efficient at converting views to downloads or they are just not being recorded correctly.


In September the image view page changed.  My understanding is there are multiple versions of the same page depending on where a person is logged in or not, has available credits or not and their location to display the correct currency.  To me it seems there are masses of variables which may or may not trigger a view count compared to the previous layout which only had one option and always trigged a 'view'.


I still think this problem will (and has) had knock on effects on the BM.  Even if views only had a small effect changing the quantity from what was previously recorded will have an outcome.  Think of when you make a cake, you only put a small amount of baking powder in compared to the other ingredients but if you change your measuring criteria (from say teaspoons to tablespoons) it will screw your cake up.
ClarkandCompany
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Posted Fri Feb 8, 2013 9:01AM
The Mary Berry of iStock Jo smile


I think you have a ounce or two of truth in your analysis.

(Edited on 2013-02-08 10:06:06 by ClarkandCompany)
Lobo
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Posted Fri Feb 8, 2013 9:41AM
We are looking at things. I hope to have a thread together very soon on Views. Keep talking. We are watching and doing our own analysis.
alanphillips
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Posted Fri Feb 8, 2013 10:31AM
Posted By Whiteway:
^ The signs are that visitors are viewing in numbers that are not much changed from before September.

The issue seems to be that iStock programmers can't tell why views are no longer registering in the same way as before. (In fact, it seems that they deny there has been any change.)

This is one of those drawn-out issues that, typically, will still be unresolved in a year's time.

This is where I see a difference. Whether I check with DeepMeta or on site my recorded views fell off a cliff from early September.
Whiteway
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Posted Fri Feb 8, 2013 10:38AM
^ DeepMeta should be showing you the same stat, Alan. It takes its information from the site.
alanphillips
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Posted Fri Feb 8, 2013 10:49AM
^Sorry, I didn't phrase that very well, or I didn't read your previous post properly. Pre-September DeepMeta showed lots of views per day and the images on iStock recorded lots of views. Post-September DeepMeta tells me I get very few views per day and this is reflected in the few views per image on iStock. So yes, they are both showing the same (I presume) and both showing that views dropped dramatically from early September onwards.
Whiteway
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Posted Fri Feb 8, 2013 10:54AM
Not sure if we have crossed wires or not, Alan. The dramatic drop in recorded views is almost certainly due to the extensive changes made to the site in September. To my mind, it's the recording of views that is the issue, and not the number of actual views.

Though we can always use more views.
GorazdBertalanic
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Posted Fri Feb 8, 2013 11:07AM
I believe that in our BM (and in search engines from all other major RF sites) downloads/view ratio is one of the most important parameters which influence search placement.
 
So, if views are not recorded correctly, than download/view ratio is not correct which results in wrong BM search placement.
 
On the other hand, if views are being recorded correctly (as iStock claims), than I would assume that iStock has records of all views (from the logged in and logged out users).
 
If this is the case, than I cannot find any logical explanation why iStock does not show total number of views.
 
At the end of the day, view is a view, no matter if it comes from the logged in user or from the logged out user...
alanphillips
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Posted Fri Feb 8, 2013 11:08AM
I think it is I who has a crossed wire somewhere in my brain cell. Anyway, yes I also am of the opinion that the recording of views is the problem.
Iridiumphotographics
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Posted Sat Feb 9, 2013 5:06PM
If it changed in September, so only logged in users register views, then I'm sure overall views will be down.

I personally don't mind if my views are accurate or not, but I do wonder how it affects customers.
If I was looking to buy an image and I saw it had 10 views, whereas a similar image had 1000 views.. would I want the one with less views as it's more likely to be unique? Or would I prefer the one with 1000 views as it's more popular.. bowing to peer pressure, as it were.

I'm not a buyer myself, so it would be nice to get an opinion from someone who is.
I think there must be an effect either way that's worth considering.
PaCondryx
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:00PM
Logged out views do not count anymore and that's one thing that has influenced the total number (at least in my 1.5cents opinion), the other thing could maybe just maybe be that new images are hard to find? There might be also other bugs, technical problems or whatever trics in the counter as you say of course, but in the end, how are the images supposed to collect views if they're nowhere to be found, I wonder.
wcjohnston
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:19PM

Thanks kelvinjay what you say regarding the counter makes sense.


I have only been around for about a year and only have 170 images on the site. The first picture I had accepted has 184 views but no sales. But a picture I submitted on the 2nd of Feb had one view and one sale (it now has two views, but who is counting).If contributors chase views we miss the point of why we are on here. You can have a hundred and one school kids looking for a picture online for a school project who click onto your image, and one person who logs on to the site to purchase, I want to know my pictures are being found by the one.




As for sales being down, I know I only have a small collection but Feb is the best month I have had and it is only the 12th.


 


 
Iridiumphotographics
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Posted Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:07AM
This is not the thread to discuss your Feb sales on I'm afraid. Please don't get this thread locked.

Back on topic, I know I'm getting lots of views as my lightbox views still increase by about the same rate they always did. It's just image views that don't go up.
As I said previously, I don't mind what views I do/don't see as being logged, but I wonder if any buyers can throw any light onto my question of whether it makes a difference to them?
If they see an image that appears to have hardly any views, would that put them off, thinking it's not a popular image, or make them more likely to buy it, given that it's unique and 'undiscovered' by everyone else.

Just out of interest really.
kelvinjay
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Posted Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:15AM
From what I see as a contributor, iStock sells images every day that clearly show they have already been downloaded hundreds if not thousands of times before. So if that doesn't put people off buying, I don't think seeing that an image has a lot of views or not many views will affect buyer behaviour much. I think they generally just look to find the right image to fit their project, regardless of previous views.

(Edited on 2013-02-12 04:23:51 by kelvinjay)
Iridiumphotographics
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Posted Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:31AM
Cheers for that Kelvin.. I was just curious really.
wcjohnston
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Posted Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:21PM
Posted By Iridiumphotographics:
This is not the thread to discuss your Feb sales on I'm afraid. Please don't get this thread locked.




I was not discussing Feb Sales but pointing out that there is not a coloration between views not being recorded and low sales.
Note what  Simonbradfield said in the third post on the this thread (The emphasis is mine).


Posted By simonbradfield:

Lovely photo you have there. I'm in exactly the same situation. Images that are two or three months old with no views, let alone sales. This is an issue that iStock really should be addressing, not fannying around with deals paying us a pittance for views (or whatever the latest deal is). We need decent sales from proper paying customers, not some nebulous deal.


i believe there is an elephant in the room, and it's telling me customers have left because iStock is too expensive. Could just me my particular customers...


I want to know my picture is being found by the one who will buy it not the 100 who are just searching the internet for something they can copy FOC and that's my point.

I think views don't count for anything if they are not from people who are potential purchasers. My sales are increasing without the counter recording every visit.

(Edited on 2013-02-12 15:22:22 by wcjohnston)
ramihalim
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Posted Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:07AM

hi, it's very demotivating to start producing stuff after a few months of hybernation and have like 40 uploads with zero views.... 


and i beg to differ, views are an indication of trends and demand; even if that doesn't necessarily reflect serious purchase intent 
aoshlick
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Posted Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:11AM
Same problem here... but its not the views im worrying about. None of my illustrations since that time are selling, and my quality is getting better. Definintely concerned. Looks like all the negative hype im hearing about IS is starting to take a toll. 
JoeyFields
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Posted Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:39AM
This is just saying, but I kinda suspect iStock don't want us to know the actual number of views cos they know it's been declining and want to hide the fact from contributors? Too much imagination? haha.
ramihalim
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Posted Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:27AM
so what exactly counts as a view.. does hovering over an imagine in search result and getting the blow up a view?
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