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AllLightFilm
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Posted Tue Feb 5, 2013 5:25PM
by itself, need to do it again! Actually I just refreshed the page 2 minutes ago, this is not the first time it happend. Can we have an option of keeping looged on for 7 days? While I am typing this, auto correction is also disable by istock,do we have a reason to practice this way? Frustrating is all I can say.
Forrestbro
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Posted Tue Feb 5, 2013 10:53PM
That sucks that you got logged out, but it's pretty rare that a video clip needs 50 keywords and a quick look at your videos shows that you're adding a lot of spam to your keywords.
Lobo
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Posted Tue Feb 5, 2013 11:02PM

Posted By Forrestbro:
That sucks that you got logged out, but it's pretty rare that a video clip needs 50 keywords and a quick look at your videos shows that you're adding a lot of spam to your keywords.

Solid advice. Take note of that.
Daedalum
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013 1:21AM

if you use this you can do all your keywords offline then upload them when ready, its saved me so many headaches


http://www.deepmeta.com/
Forrestbro
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013 10:29AM

Posted By AllLightFilm:

Lucky you Forrestbro never been logged off. But thank you for checking my videos, as istock stated somewhere you are more than welcome to flag the irrelevant ones so I can correct them. When you have more than one element in your file you may need more keywords, so 50 is not a crazy number when you need it, that's the limit istock  set up for, I don't want to save my imagination, I felt guilty if I didn't fill it up.



I never said I haven't been unexpectedly logged off while keywording. It happens to everyone and it a pain in the butt. The best thing to do to prevent this it to open iStock in another browser tab and make sure you're logged in before hitting submit.

But you do have a big problem with spam keywords. 50 is not a crazy number if you need it, but you your case, you don't need nearly 50 keywords for most of your videos and in most cases they should be have had lass then 20-30 keywords. Since every video of yours I checked had spam keywords, it would have taken me weeks to flag all of the inappropriate keywords.

A couple examples from your uploads:

A video of bread and corn flying through the air has these spam keywords: Cheerful, Lifestyles, Business, Ideas, High Up, Yellow, Wheat, Style, Life, Dinner Party, Breakfast, Domestic Kitchen, Light, Cereal Plant, Concepts, Elegance, Cute, Exhibition, Commercial Kitchen, Animation, Harvesting, Bizarre, Happiness, Enjoyment, Performance, New Life, Success, Tall,Fun, Showing, Performing Arts Event

A video of pouring orange juice has these spam keywords:Creativity,Life, Blurred Motion, Outdoors, Finance, Business, Ideas, Red, Bright, High Contrast, Cheerful, Jar, Family, Concepts, Levitation, Beauty In Nature, Zero Gravity, Animation, Residential Structure, Real Estate, Cute, Romance, Happiness, Dreams, New Life, Contrasts, Backgrounds, Home Finances,

A video of a train going by has these spam keywords: Car, Abstract, Empire State Building, Business, Futuristic, Taxi, Home Finances, Driving, Forecasting, Sadness, Pendulum, Green,Finance, Road, Nature, Sunset, Storm, Street, Silhouette, Science, Ideas, Beauty, Beautiful, Construction Frame, Reminder, Global Warming, Beauty In Nature, People Traveling, Scenics, Industry, Famous Place, Traditional Culture, Contemporary, Steel, Concepts, Passion, Depression, Memories, Nostalgia, Awe, Illuminated,

Do you know what animation is? You have the keyword Animation on 153 of your videos, but you don't have any animations.

Do you know the difference between slow motion and time lapse? You have 53 videos keyworded as both slow motion and time lapse. They are opposites, they can't be both.
vesperstock
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013 8:14PM
If you were a buyer searching for a train, the keyword metal is irrelevant. If you were a buyer searching for metal, clips of trains are irrelevant. Poor keywords—and worse, deliberately misleading keywords—just annoy potential customers trying to search for useful content by cluttering up the search results with junk. It doesn't help anyone, at all, ever. This is actually a huge problem on istock. No-one is going to spend time fixing this data. Buyers are simply going to go to alternative sites with accurate searches.
BanksPhotos
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013 9:43PM
However, in your egg files how are, "Ideas, Business, Finance, Lifestyles, Animation, Cute, Home Finances, Playful, Human Intestine, Fun, etc." even remotely relevant. Forrestbro brought up the point about keyword spamming, the point was reinforced by, non other than, Lobo and now you try to defend your reasoning. Keyword spam is bad for all of us and you should have responded, thanks guys I will do some house cleaning. Now, you have just attracted the attention of myself and others who have nothing better to do than look through your files. One of us will start flagging wrong keywords and I would suppose you will eventually hear from HQ. Admit it, if you were looking for a playful human intestine you would not want two eggs falling into a bowl. Don't get me wrong, many of your files are ok, it just appears the closer you get to 50 keywords the stretch of relevancy takes over.
heavypred
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Posted Thu Feb 7, 2013 5:04AM

You're attracting more and more needles attention to your spam keywording, and you are going to see more and more people engage with it and posting here. This is me talking from personal experience Stubbornness on istock can only do you harm.



- clear your keywords, it's going to do good for all of us, believe me
- keep one tab with istock open all the time, so you can log in before clicking 'submit'
- problem solved


Hope that helps 
vidproquo
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Posted Thu Feb 7, 2013 8:49AM
An update regarding video inspection and keywords. Be advised that inspectors will be increasingly stringent to ensure contributors use descriptive, focused keywords. Keywords that are not directly identifiable or relevant to the content of a particular video file should not be included. Avoid copy/paste of keywords, carefully consider the keywords for each and every file separately to ensure their relevance and be sure to disambiguate to ensure the list of Terms that follow Tags are concise.  It is advised to please review and update your files in the queue to adhere to this requirement. We would ask that carefully consider the keywords for each and every file separately to ensure their relevance. The inspection team is striving to keep wait times to a minimum. Failure to provide proper keywords may cause further inspection delays as files can be either held back with a request to edit or, in cases were keywords are flagrantly misused, rejected pending keyword correction.


For more information see: K is for ... Tags? http://istockphoto.com/article_view.php?ID=227.

Word Power  http://www.istockphoto.com/article_view.php?ID=242

(Edited on 2013-02-07 08:51:04 by vidproquo)
AllLightFilm
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Posted Thu Feb 7, 2013 9:06AM

Thanks Vidproquo, understand the burden of inspector. Doing so as advised, and house cleaning time by time, and doing so right NOW.  BUT i am really worried that not everybody doing so, there are tons of misused keywords in the library, way way too far away than some of mine ( if "playful" can not be widely used). I even contacted the HQ for the issue long time ago.


OK, when can I see the update of my disappeard files from getty, that's a lot, a lot of lost. Also, back to the point, I don't want to be logged off when I don't want to, can we do it? That's the frustration for our work.
ducksandwich
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Posted Thu Feb 7, 2013 11:34AM

What Vidproquo said. 


From the examples posted here it sounds like you are reaching when dealing with a variety of keywords. Don't worry about other contributors, focus on keeping your own work clean. If you have any keywording questions, comments or ideas feel free to check out the KW Forum


The basic rule of keywording files goes like this: keyword what you see. As much as everyone likes views and ultimately sales, spamming files will only get you in trouble. Nine times out of ten a file doesn't need 50 keywords so KW what's happening in the content, not what isn't there and there's no need for excessive and unecessary detail. 


Finally, feel free to ask lots o' questions. We're always here to help. 
AllLightFilm
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Posted Thu Feb 7, 2013 12:02PM

Thanks Duck (make me hungry now), don't know there are so many "employees" here! I will start to bother you over there. I rarely rover around, stuck in video board. 


OK, who will help me with my getty disappeared files, and keep me logged in? 
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