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Lobo
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013 9:43AM
Without numbers, my main focus would be concerns if somehow this new busines model affects normal sale. And yes, obviously nobody knows because it is all new.

I think I already answered this question. Frankly, I think you just did too

Can you give us some guidance from the data available if for instance editorial content will generate more clicks than creative?

That is a good question. I will see what I can find out.

Or is there anything you would want us to shoot that you think would be very useful for "Connect"?

As the content is pulled from the Getty Images it's clear the content would have to be something we would be able to mirror in Getty. The Creative Briefs might help here. I appreciate we haven't been actively engaging that piece lately, but we have plans to reboot some of that. It's a different discussion. Let's leave it at that for now.
SteveDF
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013 10:02AM
I think, from some of the questions, that there are some misconceptions. I don’t have any inside info so I could be wrong here but I’ve tried to read over the stuff carefully and tried it out.
 
First, the Yahoo deal can’t hurt sales because it is an enhancement to an existing search engine. You could already search for images on Yahoo before but we didn’t get any income if someone looked at our image in the search results and didn’t buy it.
 
Second, the data has to be coming from the Getty database as that is the whole purpose of the Connect API, to provide a data interface to Yahoo.
 
Third, Right click is disabled so you can’t download anything. You can take a screen shot but you could always do that. Nothing new here. And the watermark, while only in the corner, does say that the image is subject to copyright. I tried this by searching for “Lance Armstrong” at Yahoo. If you click on the first image with the HQ in the corner you are taken to a different screen. All the Getty images have right click disabled but the Reuters ones do not. You can right click and download the reuters image but you can’t the Getty.
 
Forth, in the future there is supposed to be a button at the bottom of the image to click to go directly to that image at Getty for purchase. When implemented this should actually help sales as it gives the user easy access to the purchase process. For now if you click on the info icon there is a link to Getty, but to the home page, not the actual page for that image.
 
Fifth, there are no license agreement issues because there is no license till you go to Getty and buy the image.
 
Sixth, this one is just a guess but I am guessing that the payment is IP counted so that you are only counted for one visit to an image. Otherwise people would set up bots to continuously click on their images to increase their income. Just a guess on my part. So don’t spend your weekend clicking your pics.
 
Please correct me if I am wrong anywhere but I think my only remaining question is $ per view.
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013 10:18AM

Posted By SteveDF:
I think, from some of the questions, that there are some misconceptions. I don’t have any inside info so I could be wrong here but I’ve tried to read over the stuff carefully and tried it out.
 
First, the Yahoo deal can’t hurt sales because it is an enhancement to an existing search engine. You could already search for images on Yahoo before but we didn’t get any income if someone looked at our image in the search results and didn’t buy it.
 
Second, the data has to be coming from the Getty database as that is the whole purpose of the Connect API, to provide a data interface to Yahoo.
 
Third, Right click is disabled so you can’t download anything. You can take a screen shot but you could always do that. Nothing new here. And the watermark, while only in the corner, does say that the image is subject to copyright. I tried this by searching for “Lance Armstrong” at Yahoo. If you click on the first image with the HQ in the corner you are taken to a different screen. All the Getty images have right click disabled but the Reuters ones do not. You can right click and download the reuters image but you can’t the Getty.
 
Forth, in the future there is supposed to be a button at the bottom of the image to click to go directly to that image at Getty for purchase. When implemented this should actually help sales as it gives the user easy access to the purchase process. For now if you click on the info icon there is a link to Getty, but to the home page, not the actual page for that image.
 
Fifth, there are no license agreement issues because there is no license till you go to Getty and buy the image.
 
Sixth, this one is just a guess but I am guessing that the payment is IP counted so that you are only counted for one visit to an image. Otherwise people would set up bots to continuously click on their images to increase their income. Just a guess on my part. So don’t spend your weekend clicking your pics.
 
Please correct me if I am wrong anywhere but I think my only remaining question is $ per view.


That's a good summary.
Lobo
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013 10:23AM
First, the Yahoo deal can’t hurt sales because it is an enhancement to an existing search engine. You could already search for images on Yahoo before but we didn’t get any income if someone looked at our image in the search results and didn’t buy it.


You have the right of it, Steve.

Second, the data has to be coming from the Getty database as that is the whole purpose of the Connect API, to provide a data interface to Yahoo.


Again, nailed it.

Third, Right click is disabled so you can’t download anything. You can take a screen shot but you could always do that. Nothing new here. And the watermark, while only in the corner, does say that the image is subject to copyright. I tried this by searching for “Lance Armstrong” at Yahoo. If you click on the first image with the HQ in the corner you are taken to a different screen. All the Getty images have right click disabled but the Reuters ones do not. You can right click and download the reuters image but you can’t the Getty.


There will always be issues with people poaching IP. We are doing what we can to combat that without mitigating our ability to provide new opportunities. In short, we aren't able to change the nature of the internet but we will do what we can.


Forth, in the future there is supposed to be a button at the bottom of the image to click to go directly to that image at Getty for purchase. When implemented this should actually help sales as it gives the user easy access to the purchase process. For now if you click on the info icon there is a link to Getty, but to the home page, not the actual page for that image.


I'll see if I can get some clarity on the linking back to the specific Getty Images files. I don't have that infront of me right now.

Fifth, there are no license agreement issues because there is no license till you go to Getty and buy the image.

This is true.

Typically for this license model, the customer has the right to make images available to be viewed only by end users. At the end of the contract with the customer, they have no further right to use the content. Generally speaking the customers would be news aggregators, small-sized publishers, self-publishers, social networks and blog sites.

Sixth, this one is just a guess but I am guessing that the payment is IP counted so that you are only counted for one visit to an image. Otherwise people would set up bots to continuously click on their images to increase their income. Just a guess on my part. So don’t spend your weekend clicking your pics.

I'm waiting on confirmation on the IP tracking question. I'm pretty sure we are sorted out regarding the bots and the inevitable attempts that might be made to game this system.

Please correct me if I am wrong anywhere but I think my only remaining question is $ per view.

All I can provide in that regard is that you will be paid the standard royalty rate you receive from from content you have up on Getty Images. If I can elaborate further you can be sure I will update this and let people know. I've got questions going up the chain.

Steve, as people are going to point out, great summary. Thanks for taking the time.

(Edited on 2013-02-06 10:27:34 by Lobo)
anchev
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013 10:58AM
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Posted By SteveDF:

First, the Yahoo deal can’t hurt sales because it is an enhancement to an existing search engine.

Yes, it can. The images there are Medium iStock size and hard to say they are watermark protected just by a tiny corner notification. We have seen fraudsters buying and/or refunding images or stealing them with watermarks. What is left for images that are big, clean and ready to use.

In short - I don't see why the images are placed such big and unprotected. This is definitely not in our interest. 
Lobo
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013 11:04AM

Posted By anchev:
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Posted By SteveDF:

First, the Yahoo deal can’t hurt sales because it is an enhancement to an existing search engine.

Yes, it can. The images there are Medium iStock size and hard to say they are watermark protected just by a tiny corner notification. We have seen fraudsters buying and/or refunding images or stealing them with watermarks. What is left for images that are big, clean and ready to use.

In short - I don't see why the images are placed such big and unprotected. This is definitely not in our interest. 

Please read my response rather than only responding the the statement provided by Steve. You might get answers if you ask questions.

(Edited on 2013-02-06 11:05:12 by Lobo)
SteveDF
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013 11:11AM
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Posted By Lobo:


Posted By anchev:
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Posted By SteveDF:

First, the Yahoo deal can’t hurt sales because it is an enhancement to an existing search engine.


Yes, it can. The images there are Medium iStock size and hard to say they are watermark protected just by a tiny corner notification. We have seen fraudsters buying and/or refunding images or stealing them with watermarks. What is left for images that are big, clean and ready to use.

In short - I don't see why the images are placed such big and unprotected. This is definitely not in our interest. 


Please read my response rather than only responding the the statement provided by Steve. You might get answers if you ask questions.

(Edited on 2013-02-06 11:05:12 by Lobo)


Also, right click downloads are disabled for Getty images in Connect. So, as Lobo points out, you may be able to get around that, but not by the casual user. Also since I believe it is linking back to the Getty image there may be other safeguards in place. I don't know an lot about hacking so I can't say. But the easy download is blocked which stops most problems.
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013 1:03PM
Posted By Lobo:

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Second, the data has to be coming from the Getty database as that is the whole purpose of the Connect API, to provide a data interface to Yahoo.


Again, nailed it.

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In that case, why rely on the customer to give Getty information on views per image (as detailed in the article)?  Can't Getty track the views/clicks themselves, and reduce the already very high level of complexity and obfuscation?
Lobo
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013 1:15PM

Posted By georgeclerk:
Posted By Lobo:

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Second, the data has to be coming from the Getty database as that is the whole purpose of the Connect API, to provide a data interface to Yahoo.


Again, nailed it.

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In that case, why rely on the customer to give Getty information on views per image (as detailed in the article)?  Can't Getty track the views/clicks themselves, and reduce the already very high level of complexity and obfuscation?

I think maybe you are making it more confusing than it needs to be. Why would this be an issue for you either way?
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013 1:28PM
Posted By Lobo:


Posted By georgeclerk:

Posted By Lobo:


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Second, the data has to be coming from the Getty database as that is the whole purpose of the Connect API, to provide a data interface to Yahoo.



Again, nailed it.


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In that case, why rely on the customer to give Getty information on views per image (as detailed in the article)?  Can't Getty track the views/clicks themselves, and reduce the already very high level of complexity and obfuscation?


I think maybe you are making it more confusing than it needs to be. Why would this be an issue for you either way?


I'd like it to be as simple as it can possibly be.


It would be an issue for me because it's the difference between contributors trusting Getty to get our sales figures right (which I can do), and contributors trusting all customers who sign up to the Connect deal to get our sales figures right (which could become difficult).

Is that not a reasonable concern?
Lobo
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013 1:51PM
It's about as simple as we can make it at this point. If you are having trust issues I appreciate that. Everyone needs to consider all things when they decide to be apart of this community. If you are now saying you don't trust the partners involved in the Connect API program well then there is no way to reconcile your concerns.

One other thing: Please quote with more care. Thanks for fixing that up while I was responding

(Edited on 2013-02-06 13:52:29 by Lobo)
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013 2:33PM

I don't want my content to be protected by the safety of common Internet user ignorance (RMB click disabled). I think I am free to express my view on that as this is on-topic. Or are only "wow great" oppinions welcome? Is it better to discuss things post-factum? (like some other deals)

As for asking questions - I have done it on the previous page (in blue) and I didn't receive answers.
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013 3:18PM
Has Yahoo indicated to Getty that our images will find better favour in there search results within the Connect deal.
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013 3:22PM
Posted By Lobo:
It's about as simple as we can make it at this point. If you are having trust issues I appreciate that. Everyone needs to consider all things when they decide to be apart of this community. If you are now saying you don't trust the partners involved in the Connect API program well then there is no way to reconcile your concerns.

One other thing: Please quote with more care. Thanks for fixing that up while I was responding wink

(Edited on 2013-02-06 13:52:29 by Lobo)


I didn't edit or repost either of my above posts, so not sure what I fixed or how I fixed it, but glad to have somehow helped


I'm not saying I don't trust the partners involved - at this point apart from Yahoo we have no idea who the partners are going to be.

It doesn't have to be a big deal, my suggestion was just: if Getty are providing the data to customer sites, perhaps Getty might be able to monitor its usage, rather than having to ask each customer to provide accurate and timely sales information for every image used.  There are bound to be complictaions with that.


Transparency is important.  It's a shame if we can't ask for a level of transparency without being accused of not trusting Getty or their partners.
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013 3:50PM
I still can not find where the connect lable is,any ideas?
SteveDF
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013 6:10PM
I am guessing that you won't see a Connect label anywhere. An API is a Application Program Interface, it allows one program to talk to another. Usually behind the scenes. So you don't see it happening. It is hard to tell how much of the Yahoo implementation comes from Getty and how much of it is done by Yahoo.
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Posted Wed Feb 6, 2013 8:23PM
/ /All sounds reasonable to me.  Much better thought out than the Google Drive Deal as far as working with a partner and there being a win-win for all parties.  I can imagine that it would be difficult to determine how much $ there is to be made, but giving it a run and some time will tell.  As for those who are afraid of their images being used without compensation, as in people "stealing" the images.  Your images are allready being stolen more than they are being paid for.  90% of the images on the web are already being used without a proper license, this isn't going to make any significant difference in that percentage.  I regulary find my images on blogs, totally lifted from other sites on the web.  Not saying that something shouldn’t be done about that issue, but another place to “steel” from isn’t really going to change the game.  Many of our images are readily available over at Google with a simple image search already.
 
If you just don’t trust Getty then eventually that distrust may make you reconsider who you are partnering with to license your images.  No doubt, for some, this will be the case.
 
I hope this is on-topic enough.  I know it’s not a question, more of a statement of support, trying not to look at this as a glass half empty (and leaking) view point, but trying to say that there is potential here and I think immediately slamming it as a bad deal is a bit of an overreaction. 

(Edited on 2013-02-06 20:27:14 by microdon)
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Posted Thu Feb 7, 2013 3:14AM
Posted By SteveDF:
I am guessing that you won't see a Connect label anywhere. An API is a Application Program Interface, it allows one program to talk to another. Usually behind the scenes. So you don't see it happening. It is hard to tell how much of the Yahoo implementation comes from Getty and how much of it is done by Yahoo.


"From now on you will see an additional category on the royalty schedule labeled, “Connect.”"


I can not find the category as well.
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Posted Thu Feb 7, 2013 7:27AM
Posted By haoliang:
Posted By SteveDF:

I am guessing thatyou won'tsee a Connect label anywhere. An API is a Application Program Interface, it allows one program to talk to another. Usually behind the scenes. So you don't see it happening. It is hard to tell how much of the Yahoo implementation comes from Getty and how much of it is done by Yahoo.




"From now on you will see an additional category on the royalty schedule labeled, “Connect.”"





I can not find the category as well.



Apparently it's not as easy as I thought... Still not found anywhere.
SteveDF
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Posted Thu Feb 7, 2013 8:30AM
Posted By haoliang:

Posted By SteveDF:
I am guessing that you won't see a Connect label anywhere. An API is a Application Program Interface, it allows one program to talk to another. Usually behind the scenes. So you don't see it happening. It is hard to tell how much of the Yahoo implementation comes from Getty and how much of it is done by Yahoo.



"From now on you will see an additional category on the royalty schedule labeled, “Connect.”"


I can not find the category as well.


Oops, I completely misunderstood your question. My bad. Yes. I am assuming it "will" appear but hasn't yet. Don't know either.
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