No "counting money" at istock?

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AllLightFilm
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:40AM

Search "counting money hd, or footage" from google, most of the results are from SS, none from istock (btw, iStockphoto should change to istock long time ago), then we see tons of counting money from within istock search.


i searched from google because I was suggested to add hd,video...as keywords, since not everyone will search from istock site, make sense. Now we see the result. 
Maulsmasher
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:04AM
is this the video search? I noticed this too. Other agencies show in results. I wonder if iStock is blocking google from indexing videos for some reason. I don't know why they would, but why else would they not be in the results...
Whiteway
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:05AM
Try a video search for counting money istockphoto. There are loads.

You may want istock's videos to come first on the first page, without including istockphoto in the search. That's a different matter.
Maulsmasher
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:21AM
I was including just iStock and not istockphoto...
AllLightFilm
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:27AM
if people don't know istock, they would just search "counting money hd, or footage, otherwise they would go to istock site directly, no need to search from Google.
Maulsmasher
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:21AM
Posted By AllLightFilm:
if people don't know istock, they would just search "counting money hd, or footage, otherwise they would go to istock site directly, no need to search from Google.

This is out of the control of iStock though. I initally thought the videos weren't indexing at all.
AllLightFilm
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:17AM
"This is out of the control of iStock though".


That's the besuty of the power of something, people can have easy question, why people can see other site (SS, edited)? That's my initial question of the post.


If that's the case, if iStock CAN DO NOTHING, people easily go to whoever avaiable from the search result.

(Edited on 2013-02-11 12:06:52 by AllLightFilm)
Maulsmasher
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:25AM
There may be things iStock that could help improve ranking, but it isn't something they can outright control. I do agree, it isn't ideal that other agencies seems to show up first.
Whiteway
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:28AM
You shouldn't make reference to competing sites here.

And you could save some time by asking the ultimate question, 'Why aren't my videos at the top of every search?'

One thing you can do is learn a bit about Internet searching, and from there you can start helping yourself. That way, not everything is the fault of iStock.

As a different example, try red deer hd in video search. Nothing for iStock on page 1, but I see a few on page 2.
AllLightFilm
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:18PM
I am not talking specifically about myself, I have almost non "counting Money", but istock has Tons of it from fellow contributors. Righ, I can learn and educate myself, but I can't help millions of everyday web users who are looking for suitable stock footage. I didn't think I have to explain this, or you didn't understand my post from beginning, or sorry if my wording sucks.


"You should ask Why aren't my videos at the top of every search?'"


Yeah, that was my question, "why isn't iStock videos at the top of every search?'" See my bad on wording!


BTW, I edited my above post and changed the competing site. I guess all people in the world knew what it stands for. Yeah, I am just wasting my time trying to help iStock. Probably not any more. Good luck iStock, keep on doing what you think is right.

(Edited on 2013-02-13 08:58:48 by AllLightFilm)
Whiteway
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Posted Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:53AM
Posted By AllLightFilm:
BTW, I edited my aboce post and changed the competing site. Yeah, I am just wasting my time trying to help iStock. Probably not any more. Good luck iStock, keep on doing what you think is right.

Thanks for the edit, and don't run away with the ball. We all want to play.

You should realise that iStock is barely in control of its own search feature (look at the Best Match discussion thread). It has even less control over what Internet search engines do, though I hope and believe that studying the behaviour of these search engines is part of their work.

... I can't help millions of everyday web users who are looking for suitable stock footage

If this was your point, then you were wise to explain it. This is clearly a problem with the Internet search engines, and not one that iStock can tackle directly.
3dmentat
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Posted Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:43AM

Whiteway: The issue is I think the fact that before istock redesign if you searched for videos istock content came first. Than some bad things happened with F5 and SEO optimising + competitors spend much more money on promoting content in searches...


Again istock isn't the leader anymore. Sad bud true. Maybe it will turn some day.
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Posted Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:03AM
Posted By Whiteway:
You shouldn't make reference to competing sites here.

Let him speak his mind man. If there is a problem the admins will correct it anyway..
Whiteway
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Posted Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:41AM
Posted By 3dmentat:
Whiteway: The issue is I think the fact that before istock redesign if you searched for videos istock content came first. Than some bad things happened with F5 and SEO optimising + competitors spend much more money on promoting content in searches...

Again istock isn't the leader anymore. Sad bud true. Maybe it will turn some day.

I don't keep as strong an eye on video searches, having only a few uploaded here.

As long as iStock is not actually preventing search engines from trawling through their pages - and surely they are not - then those sort of changes may well be down to the search engines themselves. Google, for example, now owns YouTube (I think I'm right in saying). And they also had a quite significant recent change in the way they rank web pages. This is the kind of technical detail that I hope iStock is detecting and dealing with.

(ETA: Why wouldn't we support the rule about not advertising competing sites?)

(Edited on 2013-02-12 05:43:42 by Whiteway)
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Posted Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:54AM
Do the search on "New York stock footage". Absolutely nothing for istock on the front page of Google search results for istock, either for general web results or for video. Nothing on the next TEN pages of results either (I couldn't be bothered to keep looking beyond that). There's not even an advert or sponsored link. Getty Images shows up on PAGE EIGHT.

If your company isn't on the first page of search results, you don't exist. Period. Done.

This leaves me stunned.
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