Best Match Discussion - Feb 15, 2013

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Blurra
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Posted Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:34AM
Back to reality now. How is the work really going on with the BM? When it starts to jeopardize the business for a lot of people then has gone too far. We need to see some changes in the near future.
PatrickZiegler
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Posted Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:02PM
I have been watching this thread for a long while and at the same time watching my files just sit there and do nothing, nada, zip...  While I am a small fish in a big ocean of great photographers I at least used to have what I thought where decent views and sales according to the size of my portfolio but now I find myself wondering if it is all worth the effort of uploading new files.  Is there any hope at all? Or, is this just the way it is and forever shall be?
mlwinphotoCLOSED
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Posted Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:29PM
Posted By ktmoffitt:
.... and no downloads at all in two days. 




I got ya beat X4, but whose counting?  (P.S. How did you get the glasses to stay on that yellow lab?  wouldn't have a chance with mine).


If things are working for the buyers and for Getty then there will be no rush to change things up and that's what seems to be happening, IMO.  With older files getting increased visibility, and selling, then (most of) those who have been here the longest are going to benefit as well they should.  Those of us who haven't been here very long will just have to ride it out or look elsewhere.....

(Edited on 2013-02-26 14:30:11 by mlwinphoto)

(Edited on 2013-02-26 14:32:08 by mlwinphoto)
NicolasMcComber
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Posted Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:11PM
Posted By mlwinphoto:



Posted By ktmoffitt:
.... and no downloads at all in two days. 



If things are working for the buyers and for Getty then there will be no rush to change things up and that's what seems to be happening, IMO.  With older files getting increased visibility, and selling, then (most of) those who have been here the longest are going to benefit as well they should.  Those of us who haven't been here very long will just have to ride it out or look elsewhere.....

I'm coming to the same conclusion: if buyers are happy seeing flames and proven sellers and a great number of successful older artists are seeing great sales, then indeed there will be no rush to fix things. Between the "BM is for buyers" and "there will be no radical changes", that pretty much seems to be the strategy at the moment. Performance-wise, since Thursday I've managed only 24% of the sales I did in the same period last year. I was panicked Monday at seeing that I had virtually no views during the first 6 hours of business time in Europe. Localisation is left unexplained. Lack of relevancy of new images and their strange, accelerated fall are left unnattended. We're told new files do get a bump with their sales, and yet they do not rise above the files that did not sell in portfolios - at least not with the first sale. I do not know how much of this is planned, how much is just bad luck, and how much is just trying to cope with a beast whose behavior is not quite understood, but in any case, the numbers seem to be very polarizing. Balanced, this BM is not.

(Edited on 2013-02-26 15:58:39 by NicolasMcComber)
DeniseBush
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Posted Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:58AM
Posted By DeniseBush:

Posted By DeniseBush:
New files are STILL not getting a fair chance. One of my images accepted just yesterday is already on page 5 when sorted by best match and the first page is dominated by old flamers. This certainly takes the incentive away from uploading anything new since new images will only be immediately buried. sad


And now ... just a few hours later it is back on page 7! sad  sad

And today 2/27 … just 2 days after acceptance on 2/25 my new file is on page 8! I am reporting this as an example of how new files just don't stand a chance with the current BM. In the old days a new file would appear on the first page, at least for a few days.
kelvinjay
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Posted Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:14AM

Posted By DeniseBush:
Posted By DeniseBush:

Posted By DeniseBush:
New files are STILL not getting a fair chance. One of my images accepted just yesterday is already on page 5 when sorted by best match and the first page is dominated by old flamers. This certainly takes the incentive away from uploading anything new since new images will only be immediately buried. sad


And now ... just a few hours later it is back on page 7! sad  sad

And today 2/27 … just 2 days after acceptance on 2/25 my new file is on page 8! I am reporting this as an example of how new files just don't stand a chance with the current BM. In the old days a new file would appear on the first page, at least for a few days.


Thanks for your example. Yes, you're not alone in seeing this.

From personal experience, in a single day, I too am seeing my new files now dropping down many places within my own portfolio. They now drop down as many places in a day as they used to in a month, assuming there were no sales.

Other people have reported the same thing and it's being looked into by the search team.

(Edited on 2013-02-27 09:17:38 by kelvinjay)
mlwinphotoCLOSED
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Posted Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:50AM
So, I guess we are assuming that few buyers search by File Age which means that new files rely on BM as much as older files.?  I've continued uploading (at a slower pace) during these changes to BM but new files are not selling and getting very few views, so I'm done until this gets sorted out as I feel I am wasting my time.  The search team 'looking into it' isn't good enough any longer. Let us know when they've got the dials and levers where they want them and if it's worth contributing I'll do so, gladly.
gipi23
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Posted Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:31AM
It seems like a nice playground, those dials. Sorry, but I haven't heard a 'solid' response in months. Complexity of the whole thing can be understood, sure, and I am more than willing to accept it is not the easiest of tasks, but mind boggles if the team's been looking into it for a few months and simply cannot make it work [sorry for sale related info, but periods I am experiencing now are those of when I was a non-exclusive and with 70-80% fewer files!].
It's simple - the result, as with a referee. If it's a good ref, you just won't mention him/her after the match that much. It's only when they screwed the game you up that you blather on about them endlessly. So I assume when things get back on the right track [well-balanced and just results], the blather dies. Until then ...
CaseyHillPhoto
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Posted Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:34AM

I uploaded three very similar images on February 16. Of these three, one of them has one view and the other two have zero. It's a coffee series--if you search "coffee" these images are a lost needle in a haystack. However, if you search "mocha" they get pretty good placement. Interestingly, the two that have zero views appear on page 2 of a BM sort, while the one with one view has slipped to page 4.


So are we penalizing images that get views now? It used to be the other way around.
luismmolina
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Posted Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:47PM
Woow!, At least I'm not the only one with this kind of problems. New files, 0 visitis or 0 downloads....
gladassfanny
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Posted Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:41PM

20 files uploaded and accepted at the end of December. As of today, total views = 26.


Significant? I think so.
Bike_Maverick
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Posted Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:46PM
Posted By kelvinjay:


Posted By DeniseBush:

Posted By DeniseBush:


Posted By DeniseBush:
New files are STILL not getting a fair chance. One of my images accepted just yesterday is already on page 5 when sorted by best match and the first page is dominated by old flamers. This certainly takes the incentive away from uploading anything new since new images will only be immediately buried. sad



And now ... just a few hours later it is back on page 7! sad  sad


And today 2/27 … just 2 days after acceptance on 2/25 my new file is on page 8! I am reporting this as an example of how new files just don't stand a chance with the current BM. In the old days a new file would appear on the first page, at least for a few days.



Thanks for your example. Yes, you're not alone in seeing this.

From personal experience, in a single day, I too am seeing my new files now dropping down many places within my own portfolio. They now drop down as many places in a day as they used to in a month, assuming there were no sales.

Other people have reported the same thing and it's being looked into by the search team.

(Edited on 2013-02-27 09:17:38 by kelvinjay)


Any chance to know when the "looking at" is gonna evolve into "here are some changes that hopefully make your life better"? Tomorrow? A week? A month? A year?
jjneff
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Posted Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:56PM
Old video's still at the front, sales in a tail spin, options running out. If this is not a BM issue then video buyers have left the building!
magnez2
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Posted Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:21PM
Posted By jjneff:
Old video's still at the front, sales in a tail spin, options running out. If this is not a BM issue then video buyers have left the building!




I also have a feeling a lot of buyers have left, bacause if they haven't old files would be selling just as well as the new ones (in 2012). Here are some recent posts from the buyers, that from contributor's perspective worry me:
http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=350067&page=1

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=349485&page=1

(Edited on 2013-02-27 18:25:17 by magnez2)
Spencer_Whalen
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Posted Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:28AM

Something that I've noticed and made a sort of conclusion too.....


Many months ago my sales used to be any time of the day and night. This means that anyone from around the world could probably see my files via a similar BM.


Now my files are 99% in the European working hours. Probably because only Europe or the UK can see my files via the BM. I don't get any sales when America are up and awake.


Could the BM location anolithicgram be far to harsh?(or whatever it's called)


Is anyone else noticing this?
secablue
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Posted Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:51AM

My sales have also stopped this month, but what I can't understand is this... if I search for my (what once were) most regular selling images, using BM and logical keywords, they all appear on the first page of the results.   If it is any help, these files were added 2010/11...


So if BM is working for my files, at least, then what esle is happening out there???
kelvinjay
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Posted Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:05AM
If you have a comment on the BM, please share it, but just saying the equivalent of "I'm having terrible sales, fix the BM" doesn't really offer us any useful data. If your sales are down, don't post about it here. This isn't a sales thread.
ramihalim
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Posted Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:28AM

Maybe, just maybe things are starting to turn around.. I'm seeing more than average downloads from newly minted files - stuff i uploaded a few weeks ago. Again views are dismal but it's starting to feel like views=sales at this point; in the sense that if a client registered a view(under the new mechanism) they've almost made up their mind about purchasing, completely deeming the view counter useless. 


Otherwise, there is a sliver of hope ... Just thought i throw that in in the mix if bitchings


The real test would be to see whether these files would sustain the initial momentum or fade away. 
brittak
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Posted Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:20AM
There is certainly something funny with BM. One of my niches is masai images. If I seach masai, photos only, sorted by BM I have 20 among the first 100, which I am naturally pleased with. However only one of those (no 100!) is from the last 100 masai images I have uploaded (7 Agency, the rest E+). I don't think my skill has deteriorated that much. This clearly shows that new images are at a disadvantage.
jjneff
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Posted Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:41AM
Could anyone comment on how people see different results depending on where they are from? 
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