Google Drive Update - Feb 21, 2013

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Lobo
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:59PM
First, we would like to thank you for your continued patience in this process. Getty Images and Google have been working very closely together over the past few weeks to resolve your concerns with the presentation of your content in Google Drive and we are in full agreement about the importance of protecting your intellectual property. We are in the process of working together to refine the messaging around end user rights and restrictions, as well as to ensure that the metadata is associated with the images in Google Drive. This work is in progress and we are looking forward to spelling out all of the changes for you as they are completed in the near future.

(Edited on 2013-02-21 19:07:28 by Lobo)

(Edited on 2013-02-21 19:35:29 by Lobo)
jjneff
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:07PM
Is this the news letter?
Lobo
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:07PM

Posted By jjneff:
Is this the news letter?

Do you have a newsletter in your email?
StanRohrer
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:13PM
My newsletter just arrived in the past 5 minutes. Woo-Yay!
jjneff
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:31PM
yep, Thanks

(Edited on 2013-02-21 19:33:32 by jjneff)
Lobo
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:36PM
I did not spell it goggle to start. You were seeing things.
nycshooter
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Posted Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:31AM
Nothing new.
PhotoInc
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Posted Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:59AM
Posted By Lobo:
First, we would like to thank you for your continued patience in this process. Getty Images and Google have been working very closely together over the past few weeks to resolve your concerns with the presentation of your content in Google Drive and we are in full agreement about the importance of protecting your intellectual property. We are in the process of working together to refine the messaging around end user rights and restrictions, as well as to ensure that the metadata is associated with the images in Google Drive. This work is in progress and we are looking forward to spelling out all of the changes for you as they are completed in the near future.

Really??
InkkStudios
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Posted Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:10AM
Posted By Lobo:
First, we would like to thank you for your continued patience in this process. Getty Images and Google have been working very closely together over the past few weeks to resolve your concerns with the presentation of your content in Google Drive and we are in full agreement about the importance of protecting your intellectual property. We are in the process of working together to refine the messaging around end user rights and restrictions, as well as to ensure that the metadata is associated with the images in Google Drive. This work is in progress and we are looking forward to spelling out all of the changes for you as they are completed in the near future.

(Edited on 2013-02-21 19:07:28 by Lobo)

(Edited on 2013-02-21 19:35:29 by Lobo)

So the work that is being done is more around "Messaging" to the end user rather than removing content or preventing the content from being used freely?  This is a serious question (Adding this last part since you sometimes think I'm joking)
cbarnesphotography
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Posted Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:38AM

Posted By InkkStudios:
Posted By Lobo:
First, we would like to thank you for your continued patience in this process. Getty Images and Google have been working very closely together over the past few weeks to resolve your concerns with the presentation of your content in Google Drive and we are in full agreement about the importance of protecting your intellectual property. We are in the process of working together to refine the messaging around end user rights and restrictions, as well as to ensure that the metadata is associated with the images in Google Drive. This work is in progress and we are looking forward to spelling out all of the changes for you as they are completed in the near future.

(Edited on 2013-02-21 19:07:28 by Lobo)

(Edited on 2013-02-21 19:35:29 by Lobo)

So the work that is being done is more around "Messaging" to the end user rather than removing content or preventing the content from being used freely?  This is a serious question (Adding this last part since you sometimes think I'm joking)

You crack me up
Lobo
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Posted Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:54AM
Don't forget the Metadata part. And also don't forget we continue to work with google on addressing a number of other issues. So my options were this:

Say something.
Say nothing.

The something I provided is all I can share at this point. When I can say more I'll say more. Promise.
InkkStudios
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Posted Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:05PM
Posted By Lobo:
Don't forget the Metadata part. And also don't forget we continue to work with google on addressing a number of other issues. So my options were this:

Say something.
Say nothing.

The something I provided is all I can share at this point. When I can say more I'll say more. Promise.


  Yea, I got the metadata part, but I wanted to make sure that what I was reading is exactly what I was suspecting in terms of the overall message and the target being the messaging being used rather than the overall deal itself changing.   Thanks for Acknowledging my questions your Eminence Lobo.

(Edited on 2013-02-22 13:06:34 by InkkStudios)
olaser
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Posted Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:04AM
Adding metadata/changing the license text will do nothing or almost nothing to prevent the images to be spread, most people don't care.


Each image on Google Drive causes damage to us with thousands of dollars in lost revenue and also causes users to get used to that great images can be downloaded through Google for free. GI hasn't understood how dangerous the images on Google are. Add insult to injury, the new Google Image Search provides the user with yet another way to download images.


The Google Deals has to stop. It is that simple. 


 

(Edited on 2013-02-24 05:33:37 by olaser)
GavinD
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Posted Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:53AM
Posted By olaser:
Adding metadata/changing the license text will do nothing or almost nothing to prevent the images to be spread, most people don't care.


Each image on Google Drive causes damage to us with thousands of dollars in lost revenue and also causes users to get used to that great images can be downloaded through Google for free. GI hasn't understood how dangerous the images on Google are. Add insult to injury, the new Google Image Search provides the user with yet another way to download images.


The Google Deals has to stop. It is that simple. 


 

(Edited on 2013-02-24 05:33:37 by olaser)


Agree 100%. As far as your typical user is concerned these images might as well be public domain. The whole microstock business was built on a basis of people needing affordable images for presentations, sales reports etc. Now you don't need to bother to buy as there are plenty enough on Google Drive.


I must say it's been a mighty long wait to hear that Getty/iStock are looking at refinements to the wording (which has little chance whatsoever of being read) and metadata.
secablue
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Posted Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:14PM
Posted By olaser:
Adding metadata/changing the license text will do nothing or almost nothing to prevent the images to be spread, most people don't care.


Each image on Google Drive causes damage to us with thousands of dollars in lost revenue and also causes users to get used to that great images can be downloaded through Google for free. GI hasn't understood how dangerous the images on Google are. Add insult to injury, the new Google Image Search provides the user with yet another way to download images.


The Google Deals has to stop. It is that simple. 


 

(Edited on 2013-02-24 05:33:37 by olaser)




This is so true... it does not matter what meta data/tracking data is placed in an image now, I just cannot see Getty ever able to enforce this sort of image use/exposure.
Lets say someone does infringe on the use rights, and Getty tracks this, and tries to enforce... now multiply that by 5000 infringements over a year (to be conservative)... I seriously doubt Getty will ever have the resources in both legal and financial to bring all these infringements to a head.   And even if they do, by the time it goes through legal channels, the user has already reaped the value of the image for their intended use, and can just remove it.
 
Getty thought this was a great deal... Google knew it was... it is crystal clear the deal was rushed through and not thought through, and now we are all paying the price (well, the end user is not :P - not funny, I know).
 

(Edited on 2013-02-24 13:15:44 by secablue)
GavinD
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Posted Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:38PM
Getty would get nowhere in court seeing as they have now devalued the value of stock imagery. A lawyer could argue that an image is only worth $60 in total as that is a figure that gained a lot of exposure when this whole thing blew up. How could Getty go after an infringer for thousands when they have paid their exclusive suppliers a measly 12 bucks? If Getty indeed did think this was a 'great deal' then I have serious worries about their mangement and business insight.
bezov
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Posted Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:21AM
I don`t have one (news letter).
PeskyMonkey
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Posted Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:11AM
So nothing really 'positive' for contributors. Our most valuable imagery on iStock can still be given away for free indefinitely and devalued at Google after Getty pay us $12 for the privilege. I'm still not uploading here at iStock and have no plans to until I see stronger evidence that they value my work worth more than a few bucks.
InkkStudios
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Posted Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:47AM
Posted By PeskyMonkey:
So nothing really 'positive' for contributors. Our most valuable imagery on iStock can still be given away for free indefinitely and devalued at Google after Getty pay us $12 for the privilege. I'm still not uploading here at iStock and have no plans to until I see stronger evidence that they value my work worth more than a few bucks.

That's Pretty Much it......
mlwinphotoCLOSED
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Posted Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:54AM
Posted By secablue:

Lets say someone does infringe on the use rights, and Getty tracks this, and tries to enforce... now multiply that by 5000 infringements over a year (to be conservative)... I seriously doubt Getty will ever have the resources in both legal and financial to bring all these infringements to a head.   And even if they do, by the time it goes through legal channels, the user has already reaped the value of the image for their intended use, and can just remove it.


Unless policy has changed, it is my understanding from reading the Getty forums that Getty doesn't bother tracking and enforcing infringements where RF images are concerned.


 
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