Raster Discussion - February 21, 2013

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Lobo
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:26PM
Posted by Bortonia:

We're happy to announce an upcoming project that's very long overdue.

In the near future, we will be moving our existing JPEG illustrations from under their current categorization as 'Photos' to 'Illustrations'. This includes any artwork that isn't vector-based: Drawings, paintings, collages, digital paintings, and so on.

This has been a much-requested feature for a very long time and we're thrilled that it will soon be coming to iStock.

We know there will be a lot of questions so we've prepared an initial FAQ. We will have more information once this project launches so please stay tuned.

What will this mean for clients?

What will this mean for contributors?

What does this mean for existing JPEG illustrations classified as 'Photos'?

What if my photos accidentally get moved into 'Illustrations'?

What if I have JPEG illustrations but they didn't get moved into 'Illustrations'?

I upload 3D renders, does this mean my files will be moved too?

What about scans of historic engravings/etchings?

Will this affect file prices?



Here is the Raster Announcement Sticky.

UPDATES: Feb 27th

Posted by Bortonia:

We have now updated the Illustration Landing Page to say 'Illustration' instead of 'Vector', because soon 'Illustrations' won't be limited to only vectors. This will also allow us the option of featuring raster illustrators in the future.

We have also updated the text on the File Closeup page for vectors. Instead of the old "Don't know what a vector is?" text it now reads "Every vector illustration comes as both a scalable EPS file and as a large RGB JPEG file (min. 1900 x 2800 px)." We feel this is a much clearer description of what's included in a vector download for clients.

We will be working on the search results over the next little while. We'll keep you posted when the new search facet (for 'vector only' searches) goes up, and when the rasters start moving into the 'Illustration' category.


Posted by Bortonia:

Another update:

We have now indexed the 50K raster illustrations. If you visit their File Closeup Pages you'll see they now say "Stock Illustration", not "Stock Photograph":

stock-photo-19722236-fly

They haven't been added to searches yet but I will keep you posted when it goes live.

Also, please note that the most recent raster uploads (from the past couple weeks) aren't included, but we will be moving them under "Illustration' over the next little while. New uploads will be added to "Illustrations" manually so there may be a little delay from when they first come online to when they're moved.

If you have a raster illustration that isn't saying "Stock Illustration" yet don't panic! We'll be combing through the library over the coming weeks to make sure we've caught them all. We'll also set up a forum thread after we're done where people can report the file IDs of anything that we miss :)


(Edited on 2013-02-27 13:41:57 by bortonia)
saw
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:39PM
wow! i truly didn't think this would ever happen. i'm very excited to see how it goes. BUT because i'd lost hope that it would happen, i gave up my illustration exclusivity - i only had 2 very old, very bad vectors - and decided to try to sell vectors on my own. i've built a website and am almost ready to make it live. i was planning to keep my raster illustrations and photo exclusivity here and create a new vector collection to sell there. can i continue or do i have to give up on that idea now?
STILLFX
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:02PM

Would be nice to have a category for raster backgrounds. At the moment I put them in "arts backgrounds".
yogysic
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:02PM
Will the icons be different between Vector and Raster Illustration?
bortonia
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:04PM
Posted by lobo: Bortonia will be around in the morning...


Morning? Psh, I'm always around

Saw to answer your question, right now yes it is possible to be an Exclusive raster artist while being non-Exclusive for vectors. We just ask that you not sell the same files (so for example, don't make a vector file, upload it elsewhere then submit the JPEG version here). It's weird, for sure, but it's what we've got to work with right now. I hope this helps!

(Edited on 2013-02-21 21:08:07 by bortonia)
bortonia
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:10PM
Posted By yogysic: Will the icons be different between Vector and Raster Illustration?


That I won't know for sure until we're closer to launch, but I suspect that since rasters and vectors are still going to be separate file types on the backend of the site, we'll probably have to use the 'Photo' icon for raster illustrations for the time being.

We'll definitely find a better solution in the future though, especially since a vector pen tool icon doesn't represent a raster illustration any better than a little camera does

(Edited on 2013-02-21 22:51:27 by bortonia)
yogysic
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:13PM
I think they should be different too. Thank you for the answer
bortonia
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:14PM
Posted By retrorocket: So she will become non-exclusive in both categories? 


Nope, she'll be staying exactly how she is now, which is I believe Exclusive for JPEG uploads but non-Exclusive for vectors (hope I got that right).

Remember, we're not making any changes to the current setup. The only difference will be your raster files will soon be showing up where they always should have: In 'Illustration' searches (not 'Photo')

(Edited on 2013-02-21 23:20:28 by bortonia)
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:14PM

Will CSA_Images be joining the Vetta Illustration collection? I love CSA but there are currently 8407 Vetta vectors and there are 8875 CSA Images.
retrorocket
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:16PM
Posted By bortonia:

Posted By retrorocket: So she will become non-exclusive in both categories? 



No, she'll stay exactly how she already is, which is I believe Exclusive for JPEG uploads but non-Exclusive for vectors.

Remember, we're not making any changes to the current setup. The only difference will be your raster files will soon be showing up where they always should have, under the 'Illustration' category smile

Wow! You're fast! I deleted my post when I read your reply to Lobo.
bortonia
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:20PM
Posted By STILLFX: Would be nice to have a category for raster backgrounds. At the moment I put them in "arts backgrounds".


We did look into categories, but they're a lot more complex to switch around than I'd thought they would be, so for now we're just launching the changes to search and recategorizing the rasters from 'Photo' to 'Illustration' as a first step. But don't worry, those categories are still on the radar!
saw
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:22PM

then yay, it's good news! my vectors will be for a totally different type of buyer than my files here i think. and i plan to continue to upload rasters here.


it would be nice to have the categories updated too. i've always put my images in the illustration category becuase a lot of them didn't fit anywhere else.
bortonia
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:26PM
Posted By retrorocket: Will CSA_Images be joining the Vetta Illustration collection?


They will, but remember people can still filter within illustrations for vector files only. We'll keep an eye on search results to make sure the vectors don't get drowned out. I should also add that there are a handful of other rasters in Vetta, hopefully moving forward we can add more. There's some really beautiful rasters on the site that should benefit from better exposure under the 'Illustration' category.

(Edited on 2013-02-21 23:15:44 by bortonia)
retrorocket
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:47PM

Ok, I'll stay optimistic about Vetta vectors.


Is there a future plan to merge all illustrations into one category? 

"There's some really beautiful rasters on the site that should benefit from better exposure under the 'Illustration' category."
No doubt. Will the pricing stay the same for the raster Vettas being moved in? 
bortonia
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:00PM
Posted By retrorocket: Is there a future plan to merge all illustrations into one category? ... Will the pricing stay the same for the raster Vettas being moved in?


Yes, all the pricing on rasters will remain the same. They'll also still be eligible for the Photos+ and Exclusive+ collections, which we unfortunately don't have for Vectors right now. But for those of you who do vectors and have been curious about the + collections, it's a good chance for you to upload some rasters and see how it all works

As to future plans, this project is really aimed at putting all illustration content into the right place since clients (and contributors!) have long complained about rasters popping up in photo filtered searches. So for now there are no plans to merge the file types, but if it ever does happen we'll need to figure out a way to resolve the current Exclusive/Non Exclusive illustrator weirdness. If anything changes I'll do my best to let you know with as much advance notice as possible: We certainly know that the current setup is far from ideal for contributors.
whitemay
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:22PM
Will this also apply to scanned engravings?
bortonia
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:35PM
Posted By whitemay: Will this also apply to scanned engravings?


Great question, I'll definitely add this to the FAQ post!

Yes, all scanned engravings and etchings will be moving as well.
whitemay
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:38PM
Thank you, Bortonia. I can't make up my mind whether this is good or bad news for me, as a large part of my portfolio comprises said engravings! Still, time will tell so I won't complain yet!
bortonia
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:49PM
@whitemay, you're right, this will be a 'wait and see' thing...

But if it helps, I personally have a feeling that clients looking for this type of content are much more likely to start searching under the 'Illustration' category rather than filtering an existing search by 'Photos'. Plus your content will still appear in all unfiltered searches, just like they do now. You might even get more exposure under 'Illustration' since the collection's smaller.

(Edited on 2013-02-21 22:50:31 by bortonia)
bortonia
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:54PM
Posted By saw: i plan to continue to upload rasters here.


Yay! I love your raster work. Plus, I don't know if you already read the announcement post, but rasters will be inspected by a team of illustrators from now on. We also plan on launching some training materials for raster artists which will hopefully help people out as they're getting started with JPEG illustration uploads

(Edited on 2013-02-21 22:55:03 by bortonia)
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