Raster Discussion - February 21, 2013

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whitemay
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Posted Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:31AM
Roger - you're getting hooked on engravings! I definitely am and have learned a great deal as a result. They are addictive!
Whiteway
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Posted Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:25AM
^ Ab-ser-bloomin'-lutely.

Almost every one of the 140-item coat-of-arms series leads to a biography on Wikipedia, and further details that any genealogist would love. And who knew what a dziggetai was??
whitemay
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Posted Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:55AM
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Posted Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:11AM
Whitemay: I'm having trouble with formatting so I can't seem to quote anything in here but have a look at this link from the original post on page 1. I believe it answers why your file is showing as a photo at the moment.

http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=351543&messageid=6846491

(Edited on 2013-02-28 08:13:25 by diane555)
whitemay
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Posted Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:19AM
Thanks, Diane - yes, it does. I was a bit puzzled, though, because a lot of my recent submissions seem to have gone into the Executive Pending queue first, then from there into Illustrations - but the one I mentioned didn't.

ETA - Actually, scrub that - forget I spoke! I've checked quite a few and see that they are described as 'photo', so I guess it will take time for them to move over.

(Edited on 2013-02-28 09:03:19 by whitemay)
mitza
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Posted Sat Mar 2, 2013 11:12AM
Great idea! I can hardly wait it! I hope that a great part of my artworks will be  moved in RASTER Illustrations. Thank you, dear Bortonia!
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Posted Sat Mar 2, 2013 1:14PM
Hi Mitza, absolutely! We've already flagged your files, I remember seeing your portfolio. It'll take us some time to move everything over but I know for sure yours will be moved very soon
whitemay
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Posted Thu Mar 7, 2013 2:09AM

Are buyers being informed about the change? As an occasional buyer myself, I've certainly had no email to tell me about it - but as a contributor I feel as though the sales of my engravings have been fewer than before.


If buyers aren't being told, wouldn't it be wise to do so? If they always have their preference set to 'Photos' only (as I previously did) they might think that rasters have been discontinued and that's no good for any of us!
whitemay
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Posted Thu Mar 7, 2013 2:12AM

Another query, I'm afraid - why are some files being accepeted without going into the Executive queue first, though most do go into it.


Also, the delay caused by them going into the Executive queue means that they are no longer 'new' once they arrive in the collection. Could this have an adverse affect on their BM placement?
whitemay
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Posted Thu Mar 7, 2013 2:27AM

Yes, another question - sorry about that, Jenn!


I've just had a look at the Browse by Category page and see that the Illustrations category does not yet include Rasters. Is that an oversight?
bortonia
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Posted Thu Mar 7, 2013 10:09AM
Posted by whitemay: Are buyers being informed about the change?


We're still in the process of moving files. We don't want to make any announcements while thousands of illustrations are still floating around under the 'photo' category

why are some files being accepeted without going into the Executive queue first


Because there are already a couple of illustrators on the photo team. If they get a file it's easier for them to just inspect it rather than push it into the Executive Q, where they'll only have to inspect it again later.

I've just had a look at the Browse by Category page and see that the Illustrations category does not yet include Rasters


See my earlier post from the first page of this thread. Hope this helps!
whitemay
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Posted Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:12PM
Many thanks.
GrigoriosMoraitis
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Posted Sat Mar 9, 2013 9:42AM
A friend painter wants to apply as contributor. He wants to upload photos of his paintings. Must he apply as illustrator or as a photographer. Can he in illustrators application submit only jpeg files ?
traveler1116
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Posted Sat Mar 9, 2013 10:42AM
What is the plan for RCs for engravings that have been switched from photos to illustrations?
bortonia
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Posted Sat Mar 9, 2013 12:50PM
Posted By grgreg: A friend painter wants to apply as contributor. He wants to upload photos of his paintings. Must he apply as illustrator or as a photographer. Can he in illustrators application submit only jpeg files ?


At this point he'll still need to apply using the 'Photographer' application if he only wants to submit JPEGs. It's not ideal, but we do plan to eventually have our own separate inspection Q for non-vector illustrations.

The good news for your friend is that all raster applications coming through the photo app process are still inspected by the illustration team so they'll be getting better and more targeted feedback on their samples.

Posted By traveler1116: What is the plan for RCs for engravings that have been switched from photos to illustrations?


Please see this post from the original announcement sticky. I also posted a reply here. Hope this helps!

(Edited on 2013-03-09 12:52:37 by bortonia)

(Edited on 2013-03-09 13:29:11 by kelvinjay)
traveler1116
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Posted Sat Mar 9, 2013 2:36PM
Posted By bortonia:


Posted By traveler1116: What is the plan for RCs for engravings that have been switched from photos to illustrations?



Please see this post from the original announcement sticky. I also posted a reply here. Hope this helps!

(Edited on 2013-03-09 12:52:37 by bortonia)

(Edited on 2013-03-09 13:29:11 by kelvinjay)


This is what I see "So for now, nothing's changing: RC targets, prices and royalties remain the same for raster files." and "Exclusivity across these file types will still be separated at this time."


It seems to imply that things will be changing in the future.  I would like a little clarity on this because I don't want to continue uploading files that will be counted as illustrations since that will cost me money in the long run and may cause me to miss my RC targets for photos.  Without hearing anything more definite I am going to assume that you are going to split these up so I am not going to spend any more time on engravings.  It seems only fair that you keep us in the know about issues that can seriously affect us.
Lobo
Posted Sat Mar 9, 2013 5:00PM

Posted By traveler1116:
Posted By bortonia:


Posted By traveler1116: What is the plan for RCs for engravings that have been switched from photos to illustrations?



Please see this post from the original announcement sticky. I also posted a reply here. Hope this helps!

(Edited on 2013-03-09 12:52:37 by bortonia)

(Edited on 2013-03-09 13:29:11 by kelvinjay)


This is what I see "So for now, nothing's changing: RC targets, prices and royalties remain the same for raster files." and "Exclusivity across these file types will still be separated at this time."


It seems to imply that things will be changing in the future.  I would like a little clarity on this because I don't want to continue uploading files that will be counted as illustrations since that will cost me money in the long run and may cause me to miss my RC targets for photos.  Without hearing anything more definite I am going to assume that you are going to split these up so I am not going to spend any more time on engravings.  It seems only fair that you keep us in the know about issues that can seriously affect us.

Please feel free to not upload anymore rasters if you are concerned that in the future things might change. We haven't indicated they will, but if you want to be future proof because you aren't 100% sure then I think you might do well to do what you think is best.

Bortonia has provided a considerable amount of clarity through out this entire launch. She provided a preview of the changes WELL in advance of the actual announcement. She has also been very thorough in the production of the FAQs. So

You were initially upset because you hadn't noticed the Newsletter. In your original mention of this in the forums you indicated that we should have posted this in the main discussion forum - we did and it's still in the main discussion forum.

I understand your concern but I think it's safe to say this was a launch that was well documented and something we brought to the attention of the contributor base WELL in advance of it's formal introduction. I hope all this helps. I know we can't help everyone, but we sure do try our hardest.
traveler1116
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Posted Sat Mar 9, 2013 5:11PM
Posted By Lobo:


Please feel free to not upload anymore rasters if you are concerned that in the future things might change. We haven't indicated they will, but if you want to be future proof because you aren't 100% sure then I think you might do well to do what you think is best.

Bortonia has provided a considerable amount of clarity through out this entire launch. She provided a preview of the changes WELL in advance of the actual announcement. She has also been very thorough in the production of the FAQs. So

You were initially upset because you hadn't noticed the Newsletter. In your original mention of this in the forums you indicated that we should have posted this in the main discussion forum - we did and it's still in the main discussion forum.

I understand your concern but I think it's safe to say this was a launch that was well documented and something we brought to the attention of the contributor base WELL in advance of it's formal introduction. I hope all this helps. I know we can't help everyone, but we sure do try our hardest.

You say this was mentioned in the main forum but it's under the title "Raster Illustrations" or "Illustration Update: Raster News".  I doubt I'm the only one that doesn't think those things apply to me.  I've never thought I'm going to do some raster illustrations today.  Those words make it seem like it has something to do only with illustrators.  Those threads deal with other issues that affect photographers so the titles should be clearer too. 
I've looked through the thread, I'm not asking for you tell me the 100% what is going to happen in the distant future.  I would like to know what the goal of these changes are, if the goal is to count engravings as illustrations and give illustration RCs for them I'd like to know that in advance.  I don't think that is too much to ask.

(Edited on 2013-03-09 19:37:48 by traveler1116)
Lobo
Posted Sat Mar 9, 2013 8:34PM
I sort of think you aren't bothering to read anything, as it's already been stated in the here.

I've added it below for you as well just to prevent you from asking again. It seems pretty easy for everyone else to read through the materials. I apologize if we haven't been clear enough or haven't documented things in enough places for your specific needs. If you have any suggestions on how we can do better please feel free to send me a Sitemail.


This also applies to our current Redeemed Credit targets: They will be staying the same. So if you're a JPEG illustrator your RCs will be included in the Photo targets while vector targets will remain separate.
cstar55
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Posted Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:52PM
I saw where my photo of a painting of irises was now classified as an illustration.  Why would photos of paintings be considered illustrations? I'm a painter, not an illustrator and don't even know what a raster is.

(Edited on 2013-03-10 15:59:23 by cstar55)
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