iStockalypse 2013

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jhorrocks
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Posted Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:37PM
I would think there's a bit of sensibility that can be used when pondering if/when a permit would be required.  If you're operating lightly (i.e. no crew, no tripod, no big distracting equipment, etc.) then I think you'd be fine without a permit.  However, if you've got a multi-person crew with lighting, boom microphones, etc. and redirecting traffic (pedestrians or cars), then you would definitely want a permit.  It's sort of a matter of how much attention you plan on drawing to yourself and your project.  There are plenty of tourists out there with nice cameras, taking pictures of friends on the street, etc. who don't even know what a permit is.. and they go unnoticed and unbothered.  I usually operate lightly and try to blend in as "just another guy with a camera".  If I'm shooting in or near a place of business, I always talk to the manager or owner to get permission, usually a day or two in advance (on rare occasion I'll do it in the moment).  To date, that mode of operation has served me well.. sans permits.  
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Posted Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:16PM
I'm going to put it out there that I have a studio in Downtown LA...  a bit of a trek from Santa Monica but without traffic it's like a 20 minute drive, or about 45 minutes on public transit. If anybody needs a place to crash, I can accomodate, and we can also shoot here. 
ranplett
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Posted Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:50PM
Can someone let me know where to buy the open ticket? Thanks in advance.
LynneAlbright
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Posted Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:00PM
LynneAlbright


(snip) removing your personal info


How do I purchase a full-attendee ticket?

(Edited on 2013-04-26 08:17:04 by echodelta)
olaser
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Posted Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:14AM
Posted By jhorrocks:
I would think there's a bit of sensibility that can be used when pondering if/when a permit would be required.  If you're operating lightly (i.e. no crew, no tripod, no big distracting equipment, etc.) then I think you'd be fine without a permit.  However, if you've got a multi-person crew with lighting, boom microphones, etc. and redirecting traffic (pedestrians or cars), then you would definitely want a permit.  It's sort of a matter of how much attention you plan on drawing to yourself and your project.  There are plenty of tourists out there with nice cameras, taking pictures of friends on the street, etc. who don't even know what a permit is.. and they go unnoticed and unbothered.  I usually operate lightly and try to blend in as "just another guy with a camera".  If I'm shooting in or near a place of business, I always talk to the manager or owner to get permission, usually a day or two in advance (on rare occasion I'll do it in the moment).  To date, that mode of operation has served me well.. sans permits.  


I rarely ask for a permit (did it last weekend though for the trainstation).


 


But here we are not talking about one photographer, we have a model (or two), and several photograpers, maybe an assistant with reflector. It's going to be a small crowd.


 


I'm ready to pay my share if we all can share one permit but 2000 for a downtown shoot is far to much, even 200 is a lot for one shoot, so we need to be many on the same permit and the permit has to be valid for the full week.
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Posted Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:05AM
iStock wants you to be compliant to the local laws. Hence, the permit. This is Hollywood where numerous productions, big and small, are being shot on the streets every day.

Here is some information that should provide clarity as to the necessity of a permit. If you are street shooting and going about your business without attracting undo attention you might be ok. If you're shooting in a highly, public place, and it's an obvious production, you'll be ticketed and/or asked to leave.

If you're shooting the backstreets with a model you should be fine. If you're shooting around Santa Monica Pier, UCLA, Downtown Los Angeles, Griffith Park, private property without permission, any government managed property, etc. it's more likely you'll be asked what you are doing.

Basis for Requiring Permits:

"Permits are often required for photography done for “commercial” purposes. But “commercial photography” has several different meanings among photographers and among public agencies. Photographers often distinguish between “commercial” and “editorial” work, sometimes with varying ideas of what belongs in each category; public agencies seldom recognize the distinction. Most state and local agencies in California require permits for any photography for “commercial purposes,” possibly with the assumption that “commercial” is equivalent to “large-scale and disruptive.” Although they often don’t formally define the term, these agencies typically regard as “commercial” any photography done with the intent of sale for profit, including editorial, stock, calendar, greeting card, and fine art. Some agencies even include images made for a commercial portfolio. In contrast, most US federal agencies base permit requirements on the activity’s impact rather than on commercial intent, and accordingly require permits only when the photography involves models or props.

Many regulations that cover commercial filming and photography were written for motion picture and television production and large-scale commercial product photography. Commercial filming, and to a lesser extent, commercial product photography, can have significant impact on the locations in which they take place, sometimes involving large crews, considerable support equipment, numerous vehicles, temporary structures, and perhaps requiring temporary closure of areas, trails, or roads. The activity merits regulation to protect resources and avoid undue interference with the normal activities of others, and in most cases the cooperation that a permit elicits is well worth the effort to obtain the permit. Commercial still product shoots often involve only a few locations, so that planning for and obtaining permits is relatively straightforward. The cost of obtaining a permit is a customary business expense that is passed along to the client. There is little justification for jeopardizing a commitment to a client and needlessly antagonizing agency staff by failing to obtain required permits for such activities.

Small-Scale Commercial Photography

Professional photography that doesn’t involve models or props is usually on the border of what does and what does not require a permit. The photographic activity involved usually differs little, if at all, from that of a serious amateur or an ordinary visitor who would not require a permit. The impact of the activity often is so low that it’s nearly invisible, and not even considered when regulations are drafted. In contrast to motion picture or product shoots, editorial, stock, and fine art photography often involves short visits to many locations administered by many different agencies, so the logistics of obtaining permits and providing certificates of insurance can be considerable. In many cases, there is no immediate client, so the photographer must absorb the cost of obtaining the permits and providing indemnification.

As a practical matter, absent models or props, it’s nearly impossible to distinguish between commercial and noncommercial intent on the basis of equipment or photographic activity, and some agencies concede that regulations based on “commercial” intent are essentially unenforceable. Nonetheless, at least ostensibly, California State Parks and many local agencies in California require permits for photography with commercial intent.

Noncommercial Photography

Photography for personal use seldom requires a permit, as long as the photographer follows the same rules as the general public. A few sites do restrict the use of certain equipment (such as tripods or artificial lighting), or certain activities (such as leaving a tour group or leaving a trail), but these restrictions are usually clearly stated as such, and not related to “commercial” intent.

Some agency staff may initially assume that anyone using a tripod, medium- or large-format camera, long lenses, light meter, or other “professional” equipment is doing “commercial” photography and requires a permit. However, such equipment is used by amateurs and professionals alike, and in most cases, sales to amateurs considerably exceed sales of the same equipment to professionals. Fortunately, staff at many sites are accustomed to visitors who are serious amateur photographers, and realize that “professional” equipment isn’t what determines commercial intent. Many agency staff are serious photographers, and routinely use such equipment themselves. A photographer’s claim that photography is for personal use often will not be challenged unless circumstances strongly suggest that the claim isn’t true."
echodelta
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Posted Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:13AM

Posted By fstop123:
What about the Tuesday walk around shoots that we will be doing together?  Do you have permits for us to do that?


Yes, I have taken care of that for us.



Posted By fstop123:
If you've got models, you should spend the few dollars and the little bit of time to get a permit for the area you want to shoot in.
So, are you saying if we don't have models, we don't need permits?
 


I'm saying you're more likely to experience an inquiry when you're with models - and to add to that - with 'professional equipment' such a tripod, crew, reflector, lights, gear, etc. As others have suggested, it's not like every person with a camera will be asked to present a permit and it's about blending into the crowd.

That said, it's up to you to find out if you need a permit - and GreenPimp is 100% correct in saying it's all about being compliant about the local laws. iStock is never going to suggest otherwise or advise to 'risk it'



Please take the few minutes to find out what you need Send an email to filmLA to get more information about whether a permit is needed you'll get a reply like this:

"A film permit is required for all commercial filming whether or not it is on public or private property. You may have up to 10 locations on a permit over 2 consecutive weeks of filming. The basic permit application fee for still photography with 15 or less people is $60.00."
echodelta
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Posted Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:14AM

Posted By ranplett:
Can someone let me know where to buy the open ticket? Thanks in advance.


Added you to the list and sitemail sent confirming
echodelta
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Posted Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:14AM

Posted By LynneAlbright:

(snip) removing your personal info :)


LynneAlbright


 I'd like to be there.


Added you to the Open TIcket list, sent a sitemail sent also

(Edited on 2013-04-26 08:17:27 by echodelta)
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Posted Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:41AM

Posted By ranplett:
Can someone let me know where to buy the open ticket? Thanks in advance.

Sweet, see you for beers
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Posted Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:36PM
I have a suggestion for the people who are planning to do side shooting, but cannot decide which permit(s) to get. A Beach Permit would be a good one to obtain. There is a beautiful, very entertaining bike path going through the beaches. It is a 2-3 miles long path, it starts almost in front of the Hilton Doubletree, goes under the SM Pier and ends right in front of the roller skating area, Muscle Beach in Venice. The path is always busy with many bikers and hundreds of roller skaters, it provides a very fun ride, and may provide you with ample opportunities to do some good shooting. There are plenty of bicycle rental places right on the beach and at the Ocean Avenue. These guys for instance: http://www.perryscafe.com/#/BeachRentals/
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Posted Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:46PM
Looking at some of the fine print around the permits and there are some interesting bits hidden in there.

Want to shoot on the beach at night? You'll need to hire a lifeguard. Intend getting a model wet? Yeah, you'll need to hire a lifeguard again (for a minimum of 4 hours).
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Posted Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:34PM
For those smoking istockers  Smoking in Santa Monica is pretty difficult task, it's a non-smoking city just FYI  
JustHarrison
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Posted Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:21PM

Hey just got my open ticket and will see everyone there! Will be the one shooting video & looking forward to some side shoot shenanigans!


 


Oh and for the smokers, haven't had any problems with Blu eCigs except for once on the beach
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Posted Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:49AM
Hey! I am smoking istocker and so happy to see all of you soon...
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Posted Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:45AM

I am totally stuck for ideas for a side shoot!


I live in L.A and im more than happy to assist/help with anyone else's side shoot.


Permits for shooting on LA City beaches can be expensive. But LA county beaches / LA county parks are cheaper. I think you can even buy a "year pass" which allows you to shoot in LA county parks. This might not actually be that useful since everyone will be staying in Santa monica and driving to a county park or beach will be quite a long drive.
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Posted Wed May 1, 2013 1:34AM
Ok folks, it's time! PURCHASE ISTOCKALYPSE TICKETS HERE

( Please only purchase a Full Attendee ticket if you are a full attendee… Buying one of those won't upgrade your ticket )


Let me know if you are having any issues with the purchase, please
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Posted Wed May 1, 2013 9:23AM
Sorry for asking this question if it has been answered in the thread (can't find it on quick glance), where do I go to get a beach or park permit?
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Posted Wed May 1, 2013 10:10AM
Start here: filmla.com and email them if you have any questions - they're incredibly quick and helpful.
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Posted Wed May 1, 2013 11:19AM
^^^got it. Thanks!
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