PHOTO: Banana Bread, isolation rejection

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viennetta
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Posted Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:38AM
Hello folks. I was hoping to get some advice regarding a rejection of an image of banana bread isolated on a white background. 


https://dl.dropbox.com/u/31520808/BananaBreadonWhitecopyright.jpg


Here's the rejection notice:



We regret to inform you that we cannot accept your submission, entitled Banana
Nut Bread ( https://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/23499912/2/stock-photo-23499912-banana-nut-bread.jpg)
for addition to the iStockphoto library for the following reasons:

The execution of isolation contains stray areas that are either too feathered or
rough.



Would someone be able to point out the areas that have problems? I've looked and seem to be missing something. Thanks so much for your time.

(Edited on 2013-03-15 10:38:31 by viennetta)
Difydave
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Posted Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:02PM
There are a couple of visible specks of something right at the top, about 1/4 of the way over going from the left. Really though, I think there is too much shadow around this. Some soft shadow is generally acceptable in isolated objects in my experience, but only on one side really. It also looks as if you have boosted the brightness quite a bit to get isolation. Not necessarily a rejection reason, but shots look better if you can isolate "in camera" with as little post editing as possible. 
donald_gruener
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Posted Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:06PM
Yeah, the edges of the bread itself seem pretty clean. What bothers my eye about this shot is the shadows. They are rather hard, but also something looks unnatural about them. Is there selective editing done on this and/or something artificial about the shadows?
viennetta
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Posted Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:18PM

Wow, I can't believe I missed those spots - thanks Difydave. As far as the shadows go, they were natural. The background was partially blown out in camera, but I added a curves adjustment layer to completely blow it out. The curves adjustment was selective to the background only (the bread was masked out). Could the curves adjustment be making the shadows look strange?  This is the same workflow I've used for other white isolations, so I'm kind of stumped as to how to proceed.


Thanks for your help!
donald_gruener
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Posted Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:31PM
Could the curves adjustment be making the shadows look strange?


I'd think yes. This is certaainly why they look unnatural. For the light we see falling on the bread (and the tiny shadows that the texture of the bread casts upon itself, subtle but our eyes & brains catch this stuff) the shadows on the background just don't seem to quite match.

Fake shadows are obviously quite common in this realm and I know that fully artificial shadows get accepted here regularly, but only when they look "right."

I think perhaps it doesn't help that the shadows are rather on the hard side.

I'm not certain any of that actually relates to the isolation rejection. The spots Dave found (which I didn't catch without him pointing it out) may have been the issue.
viennetta
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Posted Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:40PM
Thanks for the detailed explanation, Donald. I'll try resubmitting it minus the spots and see if that does it, but in the future I'll shoot my white isolations with a different lighting modifier to try to reduce the harshness of the shadows. 
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