Medium format (Phase One digital back)

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Bike_Maverick
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Posted Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:07PM

Hi folks,


I have a chance to rent out a Phase One P65 digital back with Hassy 503CW camera and few lenses for relatively cheap (300$ a day) as opposed to a regular price of about 900 for this.


Anyway, I was wondering if anyone has any experience shooting with something like this. What do you like, what don't you like?


To be honest, I have a major crush on 1/500 sync speed for this camera + 65mpx which means awesome printing + cropping options later on. And I have a serious hard on for Medium Format picture quality.


All opinions are welcome, even if you don't have experience yourself but heard rumors somewhere
lagereek
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:42AM

I have used this! although today I much prefer the Hassys HD4, etc, much more flexible. The 503 with the back is a great set-up, you are gpoing to get some serious stuff out of this. I also love the 500 sync time, unbeatable for studio flash shooting.


In short, fantastic for studio!  not so fantastic for the outdoors.
Bike_Maverick
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:11AM
How is it not fantastic for outdoors? One of the projects I was considering renting it for is an outdoors shoot with strobes, overpowering the sun... Was I dreaming?
Bike_Maverick
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:12AM
P.S. Do you have any shots that you've taken with it online, to have a look?
graemenicholson
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:44AM

I used the Hasselblad V system for years, including the 503CW, but have no experience with digital backs. 'How is it not fantastic for outdoors?' The 1/500 sync speed IS fantastic but, because the sensor is rectangular it would mean tipping the camera on it's side to take vertical photographs which, for me, would be a pain.That being said other colleagues didn't have a problem, they used the winder as a grip. I used it with an A12 back, fits the hand like a glove.
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:53AM
Posted By graemenicholson: The 1/500 sync speed IS fantastic but, because the sensor is rectangular it would mean tipping the camera on it's side to take vertical photographs which, for me, would be a pain.

Then again, with it being medium format, you do have a great deal of "resolution real estate" so you could quite simply shoot in landscape mode, crop and still get large resolution images - then again, I guess that wouldn't seem like an option if you've already spent a great deal of money to get those 65MP.
Bike_Maverick
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:47AM

I'm not spending these money for mpx. I mean, they don't hurt, but it's not the main reason.


Besides, what I have in mind is alsmot certainly a horizontal compozition, so I don't expect there to be an issue.
lagereek
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:37PM
Posted By Bike_Maverick:
How is it not fantastic for outdoors? smile One of the projects I was considering renting it for is an outdoors shoot with strobes, overpowering the sun... Was I dreaming? smile


No shots online, I strictly use the hassies for commissioned work,  no need for stock. Good advice is to also rent a Prism, it will put the picture right.


Using flash outdoors is fine, no problems at all. I was also refering to ordinary outdoor photography, its also a quite cumbersome combo.
graemenicholson
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Posted Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:29AM

'Good advice is to also rent a Prism, it will put the picture right.' Very good advice, I forgot to mention that. If possible the PME3 with Acute-Matte focusing screen. For spontaneous work just point the camera at what you think is 18% grey (sorry, you probably know that already), press the button on the prism and set the EV on the lens. It's also possible to change the f stop/ shutter speed in equal increments. The exposure is surprisingly accurate. I really enjoy talking about this camera. The advantage over the CM is the larger mirror, which means no vignetting with telephoto lenses, and TTL, which I seldon used but when I did was also very useful and accurate. This camera provided me with yeoman service over many years and countless rolls of film and only broke/jammed up twice - these things you never forget. Now there's a point! One piece of equipment that was/is always in my camera bag is a long screwdriver thing (I forget what it's called). This will obviously not happen to you but, hey, if things can go wrong they will, so if possible I would take one along. It's like the umbrella principle, if you have one it won't rain. Anyway IF it jams up it means you can neither change the lens nor cock the shutter. So, remove the back, and you will see a 'slit' at the bottom of the lens. Insert the screwdriver thing and turn in the direction of the red marked arrow. This will cock the shutter and hopefully all will be well.


I justed checked the price of a Phase One P65. 40,000 USD?!! For that it should make espresso and do the laundry.


Good luck and have lots of fun!
Bike_Maverick
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Posted Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:16AM

Screw coffee and laundry, it should have sex with me for that money


Thanks all for the advice! I don't think I'll have a choice of renting extras - I'm renting from a person (hense the cheap price), not a company. He is renting out for 300 as opposed to 900 people usually pay at rental places. So if has the prism I guess he'll let me use it, otherwise, it's out.
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