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Daxus
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:26AM
Ok here is te question I have found a used 5D mk2 for sale, comes with a batter grip and the following three lenses 17-40 L, 70-200 F4 L, 50 1.8.  All this for 2,400.00 CAN. Looking at this I seen that this is a good camera with and the L series glass is nothing to scoff at.  The guy selling it says that he bought all of it 2 months ago and find that it is too much camera for him. Currently I shoot Sony and am at the point of needing/wanting a new body, couple that with my wife now starting to shoot with a Canon 4Ti, I'm thinking that one system in the house may not be a bad idea.What are your thoughts on the purchase of the 5d mk2, on the surface it seems too good to be true to me.....or am I missing something?   (Edited on 2013-04-16 08:27:03 by Daxus)

(Edited on 2013-04-16 14:54:06 by Daxus)
kelvinjay
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:43AM
B&H are selling the body only new for $2,200. So, assuming that the gear is all in good condition and the deal is legit, it sounds ok to me. The body is capable of producing great results. The 17-40L is a very useful lens and I use it for stock shooting a lot.

Personally, I'd say the 70-200 f/4L isn't much use, I bought one years ago and never got on with it, lacking IS and a fast aperture severely limits the usage of it to outdoors / bright conditions. I replaced it with the f/2.8 IS version ages ago and must remember to sell the old one. But a nifty fifty is always handy for low light work or portraits.

As for whether it's right for you... does it do things that you cannot do with your current body or set up?

(Edited on 2013-04-16 08:49:59 by kelvinjay)
vesilvio
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:47AM
I'm a Nikonian but I totally admire the 21mp of 5D mkII raw output.
If I'm not wrong, many Istock shooters are using this beautiful camera for they work just now.
...I perfectly remember Nikonians 'envy' (D700/D3 users...) as soon as the 5D mkII arrived....

Personally, I think it's a very well balanced compromise between megapixes 'race' and iso/noise performances.

Unfortunately, I do not know if the price is appropriate for Canada ... the only recommendations maybe the usual checks for an used camera:
- number of shots, sensor status, autofocus and metering accuracy, external condition, commands and dials perfectly working, etc...
...and for used lens:
- clear and clean lenses, autofocus performance, diaphragm performance, barrel conditions, etc....

Of course, someone will tell you that the machine is not made ??to take pictures in 'burst' mode and that the autofocus is not so fast and accurate ....

I am convinced that any product feature has to be weighed at the time when it appeared for the first time, and I'm sure the 5D mkII was and is an extremely efficient camera.

hope it helps...
Daxus
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:43PM
I woudl like to make the jump to a Full Frame Sensor, I am currently shooting with a 10.2 MP APS-C size sensor. Just not sure if I sould join my wife in Canon Land or stay in Sony Land
ClarkandCompany
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:54PM
I am a long time Nikon shooter and I looked longingly at the Canonn 5Dmk2 whilst the best Nikon could offer was 12mpx. It is only in the last few months that Nikon has gone pixel crazy that it has caught up with that camera. It is a classic, the perfect stock camera. It almost sounds too good an offer to be true. The extra mpx will give you xxxl and plenty of room to crop  and still get a bigger file than you have at the moment.
Bike_Maverick
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:50PM

Buy it, then sell everything except for 17-40.


The fairytale that 50/f1.8 is a great portrait lens and also good for low lighting is just that - fairtale. It takes about a day for it to focus on anything + bokeh is terrible + 50 on full frame is actually pretty bad for portraits. 50 was good on crop cameras only, but people seem to carry on with believing in that on FF.
Daxus
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:00PM
What about the 70-200 (f4) L, isn't it a good lens, could be usd for portraits closer to the 70mm end?

(Edited on 2013-04-16 15:00:52 by Daxus)
kelvinjay
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:58PM

Posted By Daxus:
What about the 70-200 (f4) L, isn't it a good lens, could be usd for portraits closer to the 70mm end?

(Edited on 2013-04-16 15:00:52 by Daxus)



Depends on what you shoot, how you shoot and where you shoot.

Hand held, to get a good chance of obtaining a sharp image, you basically need a shutter speed that's about double the focal length, e.g. to get reliably steady shots at 200mm then you need 1/500sec or so. That's not too hard to achieve in good light. But in less than good light, as the max aperture is only f/4 then you can find yourself having to bump up the ISO a lot. In darker conditions, if you want to maintain a fast shutter speed to retain a good chance of getting a sharp shot, things can start to get noisy.

I shot about 20 weddings with it before relegating it to the back shelves to gather dust. Well, I say I shot 20 weddings with it, what I really mean is that I carried it around for 12hrs a day on those occasions but used it very rarely.

For my style of work, which often relies on available light, it just wasn't fast enough in terms of aperture and I found the lack of IS meant I got too few keepers from it. Also, most lenses don't produce their sharpest results when used wide open, so if you stop down one stop to f/5.6 again this leads you to be fighting to keep the shutter speed high enough to get steady shots whilst keeping the ISO noise down.

That was my experience with it anyway. In studio conditions where you control the lighting, it may work better. If you have the luxury of being able to plan shots and use a tripod, again that may help. I love that focal length for portraits and wedding work. But my shaky hands definitely need the f/2.8 and IS. There are so many lenses that you can shoot good portraits with, yes the telephoto end is maybe more traditional, but you can shoot good portraits with almost anything. I love my 35mm for environmental portraits. Horses for courses, as they say.

(Edited on 2013-04-17 03:52:35 by kelvinjay)
Bike_Maverick
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:45PM

Well, with 5dMk2 I go to as high as ISO 800 without any hesitation - that camera handles high-ish ISO like a boss


Higher than 800 ISO and I would be downsizing for stock submissions (I never use noise reduction), but only about 20% of my stuff goes on istock these days so that's not a problem at all.


I had that lens and sold it just because I couldn't find a good use for it. For portraits it's a bit too long, for telephoto it's too short and for sports it's too slow. It was a while ago though and maybe now I'd find a use for it but I wouldn't wanna buy it. See for yourself really, if you like it and find youself using it enough in the first month - then keep it. If you don't - sell it, it's that simple My recommendation is mostly based on my experience, and no one will tell you for certain because only you will know what you're using it for (and how). A friend of mine shoots portraits exclusively on 35 / F1.4 and his results are amazing - who would have thought 35 is a good portrait focal range?


Don't worry about the quality - it's L-glass after all, so the quality will be good.


FYI local (Vancouver) craigslist sells 5DMk2 alone for 1400 so what you found is a good deal.
lagereek
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:03PM

I use both Canon and Nikon, extensivly. The MII, is a fantastic camera, every bit as good as the MIII. I got that one purely for investment. Comparing both to the Nikon800 and you will not see the slightest bit of differance, viewing at 100%, in print?  hardly anything. Thats how good the MII  is.


About the 70-200L,  well Kelvin is right, hard to handhold, change it for a secong hand with IS instead.


 
RoosterHD
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Posted Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:48AM
Posted By lagereek:

I use both Canon and Nikon, extensivly. The MII, is a fantastic camera, every bit as good as the MIII. I got that one purely for investment...

Just out of curiosity, why own a camera "purely for investment" purposes?
lagereek
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Posted Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:54AM
Posted By RoosterHD:


Posted By lagereek:

I use both Canon and Nikon, extensivly. The MII, is a fantastic camera, every bit as good as the MIII. I got that one purely for investment...



Just out of curiosity, why own a camera "purely for investment" purposes?



 I am ofcourse using it but I much rather buy a camera then give more to the tax-man. Equipment is deductable, if youre a reg company that is.


Go for the MII, you will never regret it.

(Edited on 2013-04-17 12:03:20 by lagereek)
igermz
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Posted Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:12PM

Today, I think, 1.00 Canadian Dollar = 0.97 USD.

And, new, with warranty, Canon's 6D is selling (at BH) for 1900 USD.

Also new with warranty, Canon's 85 f1.8 is elling for 350 USD.

Do you need a battery grip?  Do you need 200mm reach?  Is f/4 "fast enough" given available light, shutter speed, and depth of field desired?  Be careful.  It's better to build a system around the demands of your shooting, slowly, rather than opting for a package solution to problems you might not face.  Used 5DII models are regularly avaiable for 1500 USD, from a dealer, with a (30-day) warranty.  Good luck with it!

p.s. Don't ignore Canon's EF USM rear-focusing, fixed focal length (prime) lenses; the "L" designation isn't everything.

p.p.s. If you're curious about Canon and a 24x36 sensor, the original 13MP 5D is easy to find at 750 USD.
graemenicholson
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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:11AM

'I am of course using it but I much rather buy a camera than give more to the tax-man.' I know, it's a crazy situation. In the beginning, in spite of pre-tax, I thought I was doing great, until the income tax came along. When I told my tax consultant there must be some horrible mistake he just looked at me as if I were a naive idiot, which I was, and I guess still am, because I still can't get my head around it. I came to the conclusion that to save money you have to spend money, ludicrous!


Anyway to keep on topic. Kelvin mentioned B&H. They also have an offer for the body+24-105mm f/4 IS USM AF for 2,999,00 USD. If it were 7 years ago I would buy it+a tilt/shift and a macro and this and that and start all over again.
lagereek
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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:48AM
Posted By graemenicholson:

'I am of course using it but I much rather buy a camera than give more to the tax-man.' I know, it's a crazy situation. In the beginning, in spite of pre-tax, I thought I was doing great, until the income tax came along. When I told my tax consultant there must be some horrible mistake he just looked at me as if I were a naive idiot, which I was, and I guess still am, because I still can't get my head around it. I came to the conclusion that to save money you have to spend money, ludicrous!


Anyway to keep on topic. Kelvin mentioned B&H. They also have an offer for the body+24-105mm f/4 IS USM AF for 2,999,00 USD. If it were 7 years ago I would buy it+a tilt/shift and a macro and this and that and start all over again.

Right you are! showing the tax-man lots of profits, cash, etc,  is NOT a good idea,  not for small traders like us anyway.
Daxus
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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:16AM
Thank you for the input, I'm going to look at it tonight.  This package deal that is being offered almost matches my current set up interms of lenses with my Sony (a300, 70-300 4.5-6.5, 16-80 F3.5-5.6, 50 1.4).  All of which I'm needing to sell if I by the 5D. 

(Edited on 2013-04-18 09:16:48 by Daxus)
Bike_Maverick
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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:54AM

Well if your current setup matches this in terms of focal length then I say go for it


I used to be a gear nut and wanted a new camera right after it would come along. It was happening for about 4 years until I got 5DMk2, and now almost 4 years later I'm still happy with it and don't want anything else (except for Hassel but that's another story)
Daxus
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Posted Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:09AM
Welll, I bought it.  I have a bit of learning to do (switch over form Sony), but seems like a very nice camera.Now to sell off the Sony kit to try and make up for some of the money that I just spent, that and more shooting and uploading  
Bike_Maverick
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Posted Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:00PM
Way to go Congrats!
RobMattingley
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Posted Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:06PM
Congrats Shane - I'm sure you'll be very happy with your decision!
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