PHOTO: Litter in tree. Composition.

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Whiteway
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:18AM
We're sorry, but we found the overall composition of this file could be improved.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8683867/_MG_5662_.jpg

How could the composition of this subject be improved, please?

(Edited on 2013-04-16 09:25:40 by kelvinjay)
argiope
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:34AM
It is interesting that there are three in a row today rejected for "composition". Someone just was in a grumpy mood, perhaps.
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:39AM

Posted By argiope:
It is interesting that there are three in a row today rejected for "composition". Someone just was in a grumpy mood, perhaps.


Oh hey, thanks for taking the time to drop by and add such useful comments. We really appreciate what you bring to the community by adding such a post. Actually. In case it's not obvious, that was sarcasm. Maybe you can take your particular brand of sunshine spreading elsewhere though and leave these forums for those who actually want to help.

Feel free to site mail me if you have any comments to make.

Meanwhile, back to Roger's critique requests...

(Edited on 2013-04-16 09:47:24 by kelvinjay)
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:13AM
As a newbie myself, I find that I am often parsing the comments made by the iStock reviewers.  This particular comment, " we found the overall composition of this file could be improved", seems often to be a polite way of saying, "this is not an interesting or pleasing photo, regardless of the subject".  So "could be improved" doesn't mean the reviewer was literally sitting there thinking, "well, if you had used such and such a lens, or gotten a certain angle".  Rather, it just means "boring photo".
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:39AM

Posted By DMD_big_al:
As a newbie myself, I find that I am often parsing the comments made by the iStock reviewers.  This particular comment, " we found the overall composition of this file could be improved", seems often to be a polite way of saying, "this is not an interesting or pleasing photo, regardless of the subject".  So "could be improved" doesn't mean the reviewer was literally sitting there thinking, "well, if you had used such and such a lens, or gotten a certain angle".  Rather, it just means "boring photo".


Thank you, this is such an important point. It's excellent that you've caught on so quickly that you can't ever take any rejection notice literally word for word. The Inspectors choose from a selection of pre-written rejection notices and very often the wording does not precisely fit. So, yes, you're are entirely correct, that particular rejection does not necessarily always mean that an image is poorly composed in terms of the specific layout of the image, the placement of the subject, etc. Many people in the community casually refer to this particular rejection notice as the "not stock" or "subpar" rejection. It is often a combination of factors which may include subject choice, lighting, depth of field choices, poorly executed manipulations, superimposed graphics or text, and, yes, composition which might include subject placement in the frame, perspective, distracting or irrelevant elements in the background, etc...

Roger, in this particular case, the "litter" in question is rather ambiguous. I can't tell what it is, and in fact it's not even really obviously litter. I'm not sure if that once was a plastic bag but at a glance it looks like paper and it makes me think more of somebody's place getting TP'd than the plastic bag issue...but then it also doesn't actually look like TP so to me it ultimately yields an ineffective concept. The plastic bag issue is timely and useful - my city JUST enacted a ban on them - this shot would have been much much stronger if we could clearly see that this was a plastic shopping bag...
kelvinjay
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:42AM
Just for clarity, I retitled the thread with the word litter.
Whiteway
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:48AM
^^ Thanks for the extended critique, Donald.

I have a couple of examples of wind-filled plastic bags in similar situations, so this one – wrapped around a branch and looking very stringy and ugly – is a bit of a variation on a theme. Still, I see your point about it not being instantly recognisable for what it is.
JasonDoiy
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Posted Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:47PM
Also the composition while not terrible seems it could be improved by adding more to the top of the image.
Whiteway
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Posted Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:02AM
Thanks for the additional points.

This was never going to be a work of art, just a stock photo of ugly strips of plastic bag caught up in a tree.
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Posted Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:30AM

Posted By Whiteway:
Thanks for the additional points.

This was never going to be a work of art, just a stock photo of ugly strips of plastic bag caught up in a tree.

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