PHOTO: Flowers - Resubmit Suggestions

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rsmseymour
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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:55AM

There didn't seem to be much activity here, so I figured I'd post 2 more These were rejected but I am allowed to resubmit them. I want to make sure I understand the issues.


This one had the following rejection reason:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/spozgabcflrg7yu/IMG_3711sample.jpg


We found the overall composition of this file's lighting could be improved. Some of the technical aspects that can all limit the usefulness of a file are:

-Flat/dull colors
-Direct on-camera flash and/or flash fall-off (bright subject, dark background)
-****Harsh lighting with blown-out highlights that lack details and/or distracting shadows ****
- Distracting lens flares
-Incorrect white balance


My plan is to pull back the highlights a little for the few areas that are a little blown out and darken the midtones a bit to increase contrast. Does that sound about right?


 


This one had the generic rejection:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/3o8jbhxc4eg8qrf/IMG_3798sample.jpg
We found the overall composition of this file's lighting could be improved. Some of the technical aspects that can all limit the usefulness of a file are:

-Flat/dull colors
-Direct on-camera flash and/or flash fall-off (bright subject, dark background)
-Harsh lighting with blown-out highlights that lack details and/or distracting shadows
- Distracting lens flares
-Incorrect white balance


I'm not sure what to do with this one besides pulling back the really bright areas on the flowers a little. The image looks clean to me and the tonal range seems OK. Any other suggestions?
donald_gruener
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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:18PM
Pink flowers:

I don't know that I'd darken the midtones. Seems to be more than enough contrast. The problem is the harshness of the light, though you didn't get into a bunch of blown areas as often happens with this light, that's probably why you got a resubmit on it. The white balance looks a touch blue/cyan to me, slightly warmer would probably help too. Neither flower is quite in focus and you may run into trouble on that next time around...you may want to downsize the file somewhat to tighten it up.


Red flowers:
I'm surprised you got a resubmit on this. The light is harsh, and the large bulk of the focal point flower is sunk into shadow, while the eye is drawn away to the bright colorful background. That would be the main thing I'd attempt to correct, though I'm not sure how effectively you can do that without started to generate some artifacting. The brightly lit parts of the flower are not quite in focus while the part in shadow is more in focus, which just looks wrong to my eye.
rsmseymour
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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:00PM

Thanks, Donald!


Pink flowers:
I agree, the color balance is a bit cool. I'll warm it up a bit and try to get rid of the blown areas. How much would you downsize and is that just to increase apparant sharpness?


Red flowers:
I can try to cut back on the highlights and maybe lighten up the bottom of the flower a little as long as it doesn't create noise.
donald_gruener
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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:31PM

Posted By rsmseymour:
How much would you downsize and is that just to increase apparant sharpness?


Yeah, it's a pretty common technique, the thinking being, better to have an image approved and sellable at M or L size than rejected at XXL. The majority of images sold are in the XS-L range anyway.

If it were my shot, I'd probably go all the way down to 2000x3000, that still permits L sales but improved the appearance considerably.
rsmseymour
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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:23PM
That's a great piece of advice! I appreciate you giving up some of your secrets I'll try to retouch these tonight and post the results tomorrow before I resubmit.
rsmseymour
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Posted Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:54AM

Here are the new versions:


Pink Flowers:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/59e0xx93h0f16oi/IMG_3711resubmit2sample.jpg


I got rid of the blown highlights and warmed up the flowers slightly. I also removed the distracting flower pod on the bottom center that was in sharp focus.


 


Red Flowers(actually orange
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pcyza4uynk1yeem/IMG_3798resubmitSample.jpg


I got rid of the blown highlights and lightened up the flower shadow a little. The image seems a bit dark to me though. What do you think?
donald_gruener
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Posted Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:22AM
Those are both definitely improved by your edits.

I can't tell you for sure that both will be accepted. Not that I think there's anything further you can do in post to improve these; just forewarning that what you have here remains borderline acceptable lighting on an excessively common subject, so the next Inspector may still reject.

Good luck.
rsmseymour
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Posted Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:47PM
Thanks! All I can do is try and see what happens!
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