Best Match Update - April 22, 2013

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jjneff
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Posted Wed May 22, 2013 11:24AM
I was seeing my 2012 files higher in search yesterday! why change that? 
slobo
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Posted Wed May 22, 2013 12:58PM
Posted By jjneff:
I was seeing my 2012 files higher in search yesterday! why change that? 

maybe sales were not meeting expectations? I, for one, had 40% drop from the usual.
doram
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Posted Wed May 22, 2013 1:54PM
it works for me now. thanks
NicolasMcComber
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Posted Wed May 22, 2013 2:22PM
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Posted By slobo:

Posted By jjneff:
I was seeing my 2012 files higher in search yesterday! why change that? 


maybe sales were not meeting expectations? I, for one, had 40% drop from the usual.

I think we're seeing the effects of a massive intake of new material. It will redefine our returns as suppliers. As million of files get added, each of our share gets smaller and smaller. We all knew this is the way things would eventually go. It's just wildly accelerated by the lift on upload limits mixed with the current BM recipe. Count yourself lucky with a 40% drop. My revenues dropped to the tune of 80% this past week. Never thought that could happen so fast. I keep hoping that there is a clog in sales reporting and that all of a sudden tons of downloads will come through at once, but who am I kidding? This transition sure is looking very bleak right now for the small exclusive producer. Can the BM adapt fast enough to avoid the extinction of that breed of supplier?
mlwinphotoCLOSED
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Posted Wed May 22, 2013 2:54PM
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Posted By NicolasMcComber:

This transition sure is looking very bleak right now for the small exclusive producer. Can the BM adapt fast enough to avoid the extinction of that breed of supplier?


Nope.  I'm already extinct with one sale in the past 2 weeks, worst streak since turning exclusive.


Is the BM going to change in any way to accomodate the new collections system?
courtneyk
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Posted Sun May 26, 2013 4:17PM
Here are some data points for for consideration regarding the BM:


These are download charts for images uploaded in December 2011 and November 2012. I chose these 2 months as they have very similar upload volumes.


The charts are intended to demonstrate the performance of new files over a 5 month period. (the big grey background represents the number of uploads, along with the small grey bar at the base of the chart).


new_files_dec_2011-2012-sml
Both sets of files had some early success, but the 2011 uploads built on this with downloads growing over time, whereas the 2012 uploads began to fail immediately after their initial success.


 


This chart shows the same data for files uploaded in March-April 2012 and March-April 2013. Once again, these months have very similar upload volumes, and show the same pattern as the 2011-2012 graphs.


new_files_MAr-Apr_2013-sml


 

The conclusions I draw from this data in that since the BM upset in September 2012, new files are being buried shortly after upload, despite early popularity.


This rather dire situation not only threatens our income, but the costs involved in shooting these images means I am currently losing money on all new material.


After almost 9 months (since the Semptmber BM upset), this situation needs to be rectified swiftly, as, in order to survive financially, exclusive contributors will be forced to stop uploading new material to istock.

It would be great to get some kind of feedback regarding how and when this issue will be addressed.

(Edited on 2013-05-26 16:28:27 by courtneyk)
vkbhat
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Posted Sun May 26, 2013 5:34PM
Courtneyk, That is a great analysis. I think it is the effect of BM favoring >10 dls and some official clarity on this matter is very much needed. 
amriphoto
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Posted Sun May 26, 2013 11:17PM

Posted By courtneyk:
Here are some data points for for consideration regarding the BM:


These are download charts for images uploaded in December 2011 and November 2012. I chose these 2 months as they have very similar upload volumes.


The charts are intended to demonstrate the performance of new files over a 5 month period. (the big grey background represents the number of uploads, along with the small grey bar at the base of the chart).


new_files_dec_2011-2012-sml
Both sets of files had some early success, but the 2011 uploads built on this with downloads growing over time, whereas the 2012 uploads began to fail immediately after their initial success.


 


This chart shows the same data for files uploaded in March-April 2012 and March-April 2013. Once again, these months have very similar upload volumes, and show the same pattern as the 2011-2012 graphs.


new_files_MAr-Apr_2013-sml


 

The conclusions I draw from this data in that since the BM upset in September 2012, new files are being buried shortly after upload, despite early popularity.


This rather dire situation not only threatens our income, but the costs involved in shooting these images means I am currently losing money on all new material.


After almost 9 months (since the Semptmber BM upset), this situation needs to be rectified swiftly, as, in order to survive financially, exclusive contributors will be forced to stop uploading new material to istock.

It would be great to get some kind of feedback regarding how and when this issue will be addressed.

(Edited on 2013-05-26 16:28:27 by courtneyk)


Thanks courtney, finally some proof and real life figures of what we all have been experiencing in the last few months. Please iStock, address these issues. Can't you see that in the long this will reduce qualiy and variety of your exclusive material? We can't shoot with models and props if new uploads won't even cover these costs, not talking about making ptofit.
Juanmonino
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Posted Mon May 27, 2013 12:49AM
Just write the keyword "money" at least 5000 first images in BM have at least 10 downloads and no new files at all, and I only checked first 5000, it might be first 10000 or more.
Plus we have the recent invasion on agency files from getty, with wrong keywords, almost all of them, this time ocupying first BM pages (they are the exception)
This actual BM is ridiculous.
Before you guys implement new stuff, fix the ones that are broken. Its common sense.
ilbusca
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Posted Mon May 27, 2013 4:55AM

Seriously, are you going to do something about this Best Match? It's almost 9 months now.


If not, just tell us so we can stop wasting our time uploading new content and do something else.
zeremski
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Posted Mon May 27, 2013 4:59AM

I sell only files from 2007


 
laughingmango
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Posted Mon May 27, 2013 8:26AM
Posted By ilbusca:

Seriously, are you going to do something about this Best Match? It's almost 9 months now.


If not, just tell us so we can stop wasting our time uploading new content and do something else.

i think the timeline on this issue answers your own question... they have BM exactly where they want it. just sayin.
mlwinphotoCLOSED
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Posted Mon May 27, 2013 9:31AM
Posted By ilbusca:

Seriously, are you going to do something about this Best Match? It's almost 9 months now.


If not, just tell us so we can stop wasting our time uploading new content and do something else.

The buyers must be happy or, supposedly, something would have been done by now.  And, it's the buyers that matter. 
amriphoto
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Posted Mon May 27, 2013 10:30AM

Posted By mlwinphoto:
Posted By ilbusca:

Seriously, are you going to do something about this Best Match? It's almost 9 months now.


If not, just tell us so we can stop wasting our time uploading new content and do something else.

The buyers must be happy or, supposedly, something would have been done by now.  And, it's the buyers that matter. 

While you are right that it´s the buyers that matter, it would still be fair to tell us what we can expect. It´s not fair letting us organise expensive shootings when there is no chance of ever selling the output because new files don´t get a chance. From what I´ve read in all the threads since the problem seems to exist, there is no wording that really gives us a hint on where we´re heading. "We´re (constantly) working on it", doesn´t really give any info, nor does "we are currently satisfied with the results", when they are heavily changed a few days later, and the same again another week later. A definitive "now we´re done, that´s the way it´s gonna stay for the next few months" would go a long way to help us plan shootings and other stuff.

On the other hand I´m not that sure if buyers are really happy, considering the complaints of so many contributors since Sept. 2012. Plus we don´t really need happy buyers, we need buying buyers.
mphillips007
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Posted Mon May 27, 2013 11:01AM
Posted By laughingmango:

Posted By ilbusca:

Seriously, are you going to do something about this Best Match? It's almost 9 months now.


If not, just tell us so we can stop wasting our time uploading new content and do something else.


i think the timeline on this issue answers your own question... they have BM exactly where they want it. just sayin.

I think you are right! But there is no denying that this is killing new content. For 2013 I haven't had a file with more than 20 views.  
mlwinphotoCLOSED
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Posted Mon May 27, 2013 12:19PM
I believe Lobo stated in a thread on MSG that once the collections change takes place both Getty and iStock will be working on the same 'architecture'.  I wonder if that means that the same search algorithms will be used for both factions and, if so, I would imagine it will be the one that Getty has in place.  Could explain the slow approach to a 'fix' that we've been seeing, if indeed, that is what is needed.
Lobo
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Posted Mon May 27, 2013 12:21PM

Posted By mlwinphoto:
I believe Lobo stated in a thread on MSG that once the collections change takes place both Getty and iStock will be working on the same 'architecture'.  I wonder if that means that the same search algorithms will be used for both factions and, if so, I would imagine it will be the one that Getty has in place.  Could explain the slow approach to a 'fix' that we've been seeing, if indeed, that is what is needed.

No I didn't.

You are confusing the discussion by trying to associate the comments I made on E+ migration between iStock and GI with changes that will come with the Collections. I didn't indicate that we would be working off the same architecture after the Collections changes. It's a long walk before the iStock system and the GI system would be working off the same architecture.

If you were to read through the number of comments that have been made on Best Match from admins such as SearchFairy, you would see we expressed the need for the changes to BM to be incremental. We haven't made any huge changes to BM but we have added a considerable amount of work towards Keyword Relevancy. When we have Collections change we will be able to better make other changes to the BM, however, again, these changes will be incremental and small in scope.

Please feel free to stay on topic. I'll make sure to provide directions if need be.

(Edited on 2013-05-27 12:29:56 by Lobo)
R-J-Seymour
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Posted Mon May 27, 2013 12:27PM
Posted By ilbusca:

Seriously, are you going to do something about this Best Match? It's almost 9 months now.


If not, just tell us so we can stop wasting our time uploading new content and do something else.


Yes, I'm in the perverse situation of sitting on many many files waiting for a time in which they can be given a fair chance to get any sales. I'm a student so I have a lot of time in summer to work on stock but I'm not going to send this work out into the ether, so what can I do?Some feedback from whoever is in the know is desperately needed. No-one wins in this situation, not istock, not me, and surely not buyers. Exclusivity is an agreement in which we agree that each party can be beneficial to the other, so why prohibit your contributors from supplying you?


Maybe it's the views being broken, fewer buyers, the new files from getty, maybe i suck, but we deserve some transparency. We are here to benefit from each other istock.

Posted By mlwinphoto: 

The buyers must be happy or, supposedly, something would have been done by now.  And, it's the buyers that matter. 



Judging by the growth claimed by a certian large competitor, it would seem as though buyers arent so happy here, and this growth, coincidentally or not, closely matches my personal sales decline since September. Add to that the fact that, at least for me, many old files are selling which are no-where near my best work, how can buyers be happy with this?
Bike_Maverick
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Posted Mon May 27, 2013 1:15PM
Posted By Lobo:


Posted By mlwinphoto:
I believe Lobo stated in a thread on MSG that once the collections change takes place both Getty and iStock will be working on the same 'architecture'.  I wonder if that means that the same search algorithms will be used for both factions and, if so, I would imagine it will be the one that Getty has in place.  Could explain the slow approach to a 'fix' that we've been seeing, if indeed, that is what is needed.


No I didn't.

You are confusing the discussion by trying to associate the comments I made on E+ migration between iStock and GI with changes that will come with the Collections. I didn't indicate that we would be working off the same architecture after the Collections changes. It's a long walk before the iStock system and the GI system would be working off the same architecture.

If you were to read through the number of comments that have been made on Best Match from admins such as SearchFairy, you would see we expressed the need for the changes to BM to be incremental. We haven't made any huge changes to BM but we have added a considerable amount of work towards Keyword Relevancy. When we have Collections change we will be able to better make other changes to the BM, however, again, these changes will be incremental and small in scope.

Please feel free to stay on topic. I'll make sure to provide directions if need be.

(Edited on 2013-05-27 12:29:56 by Lobo)

I'd love to hear how improving keyword relevancy benefits us at all. Now is not the time to do gradual changes, the time was in Sept 2012 and now is the time to do drastic changes because you honestly can't make it worse. Please do something drastic, pretty please.
Lobo
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Posted Mon May 27, 2013 1:31PM

Posted By Bike_Maverick:
I'd love to hear how improving keyword relevancy benefits us at all. Now is not the time to do gradual changes, the time was in Sept 2012 and now is the time to do drastic changes because you honestly can't make it worse. Please do something drastic, pretty please.

I have no idea what you mean here. I'm sure you understand how keyword relevancy is really important. I understand you want things to go back to a certain place in time but we can't. So, something drastic might seem like the cure but it isn't.
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