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ImogenPhotoCLOSED
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Posted Sun May 12, 2013 2:05AM

can anyone say why this was rejected for

Water (Natural Phenomenon)]} being inaccurate, thanks



thankshttps://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/24357626/2/stock-photo-24357626-couple-sitting-on-bench.jpg
Difydave
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Posted Sun May 12, 2013 4:10AM

You need to read the guide to posting here at the top of this forum. Then follow the instructions there. Basically we need a link to a full size image hosted elsewhere, and ALL the reasons for rejection to give any meaningful feedback


Are you sure that the keyword is the only reason for rejection? Make sure you read the rejection email fully. If it is the only reason then you should be posting in the keyword forum. Again read the FAQ first.
Whiteway
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Posted Sun May 12, 2013 4:21AM
Link to thumbnail.

On the keyword front, I'd say that 'sea' would be a good keyword, and the more abstract 'water' might not. Would someone searching for water be pleased to see this image, is the question.

Other than that, I suggest taking Dave's link to the FAQ page.
kelvinjay
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Posted Sun May 12, 2013 5:01AM

Posted By ImogenPhoto:

can anyone say why this was rejected for

Water (Natural Phenomenon)]} being inaccurate, thanks



thankshttps://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/24357626/2/stock-photo-24357626-couple-sitting-on-bench.jpg


The rejection notice should clearly state the rejection reason.

From your post, it appears that this was rejected for keywords only, so I will move this to the Keyword forum.
ImogenPhotoCLOSED
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Posted Sun May 12, 2013 7:11AM

thanks for putting me right, i think i can probably get round posting the image by asking anoter question.  the pic was taken from behind a couple sitting looking out over a grey flat sea. would "sea" still work?. update: now i see on looking around that other pix with even less sea than mine can use the term "water", maybe its cause they have sold over 2000 or cause i got a grumpy Rejector looking at my pic

also, using deep meta and "sea" as a seacrh term i then cant find "sea" in catagories, juist bodies of water.

also, some suggestions seen inapropriate, like "water" when they have already rejected the word as a term

also, for another pic there is no sub catagory under "transportation" in deep mata

also deep meta needs 5 keywords , which sometimes are not possible

and ive had i customer suport person saying my pix were still [not might be] waiting to be be reviewed when they had been accepted 6 day previous, but i had not seen the email [that does not sound honest to me]. 

this trying to beat the software they put in place is really starting to piss me off, how do other people cope?


any ideas...thanks


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Difydave
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Posted Sun May 12, 2013 9:37AM

It's not a matter of "beating the system" it's a matter of working with it. It's the same as anything that you're new to. There's a learning curve. You need to get the right keywords for your image to be found, but not "spam" with lots of things which either are not there, or are assumed to be there.


It might be more productive to actually list the keywords you put with your upload rather than just those that were rejected.


As far as categories go, just use the nearest relevant category or categories.
Whiteway
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Posted Sun May 12, 2013 9:53AM
^ Yep, that man Dave has a point. Instead of trying to 'get around' the requirements here, try to work with them.

If 'sea' give you 'bodies of water', then use 'bodies of water'.

If you find a keyword that only give you wrong options, then there is a thread in this forum where you can ask for your own particular meaning to be added to iStock's search vocabulary.
ImogenPhotoCLOSED
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Posted Tue May 14, 2013 9:36AM

yes, good advice,thanks


 


  in a case where deep meta needs 5 keywords [which is does], which sometimes are not possible, are the Rejectors flexible in what they will accept. for instance a pic of a "wall" for which enough keywords were not available [un less i start calling it a house.]


i have discovered that the final descripion list available depends on the accuall combination of keywords ...and the software is not so clever sometimes


thanks
Whiteway
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Posted Tue May 14, 2013 1:36PM
You can always find five keywords. For example,

wall, brick, red, horizontal, photograph, nobody, pattern, background, texture ...
ducksandwich
Posted Tue May 14, 2013 2:16PM
Stop it with the Rejectors comments. Insulting Inspectors or Admins will gain you nothing but a time-out from the forums. This a place for questions, not mud slinging. 

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ImogenPhotoCLOSED
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Posted Wed May 15, 2013 2:41AM
Posted By ducksandwich:
Stop it with the Rejectors comments. Insulting Inspectors or Admins will gain you nothing but a time-out from the forums. This a place for questions, not mud slinging. 

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[from ur profile photo] You look like a very serious person so i can understand why u might not appreciate the "Rejectors" comment, which i think most people would take in the harmless and humorous context that was intended.


u shouldnt connect the "Rejectors" comment to my complaint [further above] about being told my pix were [definately] being revued when they in fact had already been accepted.


anyway ...i have no intention of upsetting anyone here, hence my explaination. apologies if it offended you


 
ImogenPhotoCLOSED
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Posted Wed May 15, 2013 2:54AM


does anyone know if there is software that will enable u to  click on a pic [on ur computer] and instantly send it to PhotoBucket, such as the one for Flickr [will get these spare text boxes sorted in time]

thanks

Posted By Whiteway:
You can always find five keywords. For example,

wall, brick, red, horizontal, photograph, nobody, pattern, background, texture ...

yes, i think i was being ultra conservative with kewords since the Rejectors  Insectors rejected the word "water" to describe the sea. how does one find a happy medium, i checked other peoples stuff and they have successfull used "water" with the same sort of pic . thanks
Whiteway
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Posted Wed May 15, 2013 6:39AM
The 'Insectors' don't always co-ordinate their six legs, it is true. It's a bit of a moot point as to whether you have a photo of water there, or just a photo that happens to include some water in the background. Describe the MAIN point(s) only, and then there's no room for ambivalence. You might consider using 'seaside' or 'shoreline', which better describes the overall situation.
ImogenPhotoCLOSED
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Posted Thu May 16, 2013 1:10PM

I meant inspectors [not insectors, don't want to upset them ].


Yes i am getting used to it slowly, they have accepted a couple with water as as a key word, do u know: if u modify keywords etc on a offering while its in the que does it atomaticaly then go to the back of the que again, i keep changing keywords and catagories as i learn more but the pic stays in the que for what seems like weeks


 


thanks
Whiteway
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Posted Thu May 16, 2013 2:02PM
I don't think changing keywords while your image is in the queue will send that image to the back of the queue.

I have nothing to back up that statement, just instinct.
ImogenPhotoCLOSED
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Posted Thu May 16, 2013 2:45PM
just realized what this link is  "Link to thumbnail"  [several up] how did u put it in the message
Whiteway
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Posted Thu May 16, 2013 3:03PM
Below the box where you write your forum reply you will see two boxes, one marked Text:, the other marked Link:

I put Link into the Text box; and pasted the URL into the Link box.

It's all to do with UBB codes .

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ImogenPhotoCLOSED
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Posted Fri May 17, 2013 3:23AM
cool....so i dont have to make a link to somewhere like fickr?, [if i have a rejection notice and the pic to link to] is that correct?


do u know: in deep meta program, what "optimise" means and all the different colored boxes, greym green, blue etc


thanks


 

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Whiteway
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Posted Fri May 17, 2013 11:28AM
You need to make a link somewhere, because your rejected image won't be visible to anyone but you. Always watermark your images for protection if sending them off-site.

In DeepMeta, keywords in green are ones that exist already in the iStock 'Controlled Vocabulary' (CV). Those in blue are not in the CV. They will be accepted, but will not be translated into other languages.

'Optimise' automatically removes duplicate keywords.
ImogenPhotoCLOSED
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Posted Sat May 18, 2013 1:29AM
i realise i would need to make link but i didnt realise i could just drop it into a post/message, can i copy and paste the address of the photo or the link they send back to me ?

i need to tackle the keyword thing now, am noticing that most pics have dozens of them, so im wondering if there is a keyword finder [software] which makes results that are particularly acceptable to i stock photo, as they seem quite strict [obviously u have to weed out some]
 
I saw that u use the term "photograghy" for a couple of "road pot hole " pix, can u explain why the term would apply more to a pot hole than something else that was photograghed , or am i missing something [smile]. am asking because i would have expected that term to be rejected, i am trying to understand the rationale behind search terms

the info is very helpful, as is studying your portfolio. do u find that the sometimes very long and informative/helpful desscriptions make a difference to  sales? [as oposed to the same pic but with less words]


disturbingly ive just discovered that none of my "live" pics [3] are searchable, have playe around with keywords etc , using the ones attached to the pic...any ideas


(maybe i really did upset the Inspectors with my comment  smile


thanks

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