Collection Changes - May 13, 2013 ++ UPDATED FAQS

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MarkSwallow
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Posted Tue May 21, 2013 7:53AM
Posted By PeskyMonkey:

I know exactly what each image has 'cost' me to produce and therefore I know better than anyone what I need to earn in sales to make a particular shoot profitable. 

If we all face having our images sold for the current lowest price point then iStock will become an agency only selling apples on white backgrounds. Vetta and E+ encouraged us to get creative and shoot more unique imagery - taking away our partial control of pricing could also essentially discourage creativity. 


 



Yes, I'm rather alarmed at losing control on the E+ for those same reasons. I think it would be a good move if we could be trusted with some decisions on our image pricing, especially if we have a proven track record of sales and quality.

(Edited on 2013-05-21 09:11:20 by MarkSwallow)

(Edited on 2013-05-21 09:12:19 by MarkSwallow)
ArtisticCaptures
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Posted Wed May 22, 2013 3:00PM

Exclusives really need to get the same percentage for Vetta as we do with the rest of the collections. Quite often, I get more money for an E+ download than I do for the same size of a Vetta download and with that fact, I'd rather have my photos be cheaper for someone to purchase (in the Sig + Collection) since I'm making the same amount as if it were in Vetta.


And from what I understand, we won't have the right or option to exclude ourselves from the Vetta collection, right?

(Edited on 2013-05-22 15:02:21 by ArtisticCaptures)
lfreytag
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Posted Fri May 24, 2013 4:56AM

In order to allow business to proceed unhindered, I hope the iStock management chooses a simple and well-defined set of changes they will be able to live with, lock it down, and then let the technical staff have a decent chance to build it and test it before making it active. 


Based on prior "refreshes" "new religions" etc. there is great danger that the overall effect will be very negative if they disregard this advice. Please learn from experience.


 


 
asiseeit
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Posted Fri May 24, 2013 9:53AM
Posted By ArtisticCaptures:

Exclusives really need to get the same percentage for Vetta as we do with the rest of the collections. Quite often, I get more money for an E+ download than I do for the same size of a Vetta download and with that fact, I'd rather have my photos be cheaper for someone to purchase (in the Sig + Collection) since I'm making the same amount as if it were in Vetta.


This is a good point. For some cases due to receiving lower royalties for Vetta, we actually make more off E+ (or S+) sales than Vetta sales. And since they're both at Getty there's little reason to have Vettas at all. I see no reason for us to have a much lower royalty rate for Vetta sales since (as far as I know) the cost for HQ is the same.
jhorrocks
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Posted Fri May 24, 2013 4:19PM
Posted By asiseeit:

Posted By ArtisticCaptures:

Exclusives really need to get the same percentage for Vetta as we do with the rest of the collections. Quite often, I get more money for an E+ download than I do for the same size of a Vetta download and with that fact, I'd rather have my photos be cheaper for someone to purchase (in the Sig + Collection) since I'm making the same amount as if it were in Vetta.



This is a good point. For some cases due to receiving lower royalties for Vetta, we actually make more off E+ (or S+) sales than Vetta sales. And since they're both at Getty there's little reason to have Vettas at all. I see no reason for us to have a much lower royalty rate for Vetta sales since (as far as I know) the cost for HQ is the same.

This is probably the biggest reason I have quit worrying about nominating photos for Vetta.
piola666
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Posted Tue May 28, 2013 1:45AM
could we have a timing for the new collection changes and GI connector re-activation?
SabrinaPintus
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Posted Tue May 28, 2013 6:46AM
Hi Guys, I'am missing the meaning of the word TAC, normally used as "Vetta/TAC"; is there somebody so kind to tell me? Tks much.

(Edited on 2013-05-28 06:46:54 by SabrinaPintus)
ilbusca
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Posted Tue May 28, 2013 6:54AM
TAC = The Agency Collection
SabrinaPintus
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Posted Tue May 28, 2013 6:59AM
Grazie Marco
PeskyMonkey
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Posted Tue May 28, 2013 8:26AM
Posted By jhorrocks:

Posted By asiseeit:


Posted By ArtisticCaptures:

Exclusives really need to get the same percentage for Vetta as we do with the rest of the collections. Quite often, I get more money for an E+ download than I do for the same size of a Vetta download and with that fact, I'd rather have my photos be cheaper for someone to purchase (in the Sig + Collection) since I'm making the same amount as if it were in Vetta.




This is a good point. For some cases due to receiving lower royalties for Vetta, we actually make more off E+ (or S+) sales than Vetta sales. And since they're both at Getty there's little reason to have Vettas at all. I see no reason for us to have a much lower royalty rate for Vetta sales since (as far as I know) the cost for HQ is the same.


This is probably the biggest reason I have quit worrying about nominating photos for Vetta.

Don't forget that Vettas and Agency files still get a massive BM boost over E+ files. This is the major advantage of having a file in these collections (despite the lower royalty rate) and of course the very reason why iStock pushes Vetta and Agency files in front of buyers is that they earn an even bigger slice of the pie on their already elevated price point. I agree that iStock should be paying us our normal full royalty on all our files but those days are well and truly over. 
fstop123
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Posted Tue May 28, 2013 8:39AM
Posted By PeskyMonkey:

Posted By jhorrocks:


Posted By asiseeit:



Posted By ArtisticCaptures:

Exclusives really need to get the same percentage for Vetta as we do with the rest of the collections. Quite often, I get more money for an E+ download than I do for the same size of a Vetta download and with that fact, I'd rather have my photos be cheaper for someone to purchase (in the Sig + Collection) since I'm making the same amount as if it were in Vetta.





This is a good point. For some cases due to receiving lower royalties for Vetta, we actually make more off E+ (or S+) sales than Vetta sales. And since they're both at Getty there's little reason to have Vettas at all. I see no reason for us to have a much lower royalty rate for Vetta sales since (as far as I know) the cost for HQ is the same.



This is probably the biggest reason I have quit worrying about nominating photos for Vetta.


Don't forget that Vettas and Agency files still get a massive BM boost over E+ files. This is the major advantage of having a file in these collections (despite the lower royalty rate) and of course the very reason why iStock pushes Vetta and Agency files in front of buyers is that they earn an even bigger slice of the pie on their already elevated price point. I agree that iStock should be paying us our normal full royalty on all our files but those days are well and truly over.

There WAS a big push, but I believe it is long gone with the BM change in September.


Posted By asiseeit:

Posted By ArtisticCaptures:

Exclusives really need to get the same percentage for Vetta as we do with the rest of the collections. Quite often, I get more money for an E+ download than I do for the same size of a Vetta download and with that fact, I'd rather have my photos be cheaper for someone to purchase (in the Sig + Collection) since I'm making the same amount as if it were in Vetta.



This is a good point. For some cases due to receiving lower royalties for Vetta, we actually make more off E+ (or S+) sales than Vetta sales. And since they're both at Getty there's little reason to have Vettas at all. I see no reason for us to have a much lower royalty rate for Vetta sales since (as far as I know) the cost for HQ is the same.

Totally agree. 
georgeclerk
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Posted Tue May 28, 2013 8:54AM
Posted By PeskyMonkey:

Posted By jhorrocks:


Posted By asiseeit:


Posted By ArtisticCaptures:

Exclusives really need to get the same percentage for Vetta as we do with the rest of the collections. Quite often, I get more money for an E+ download than I do for the same size of a Vetta download and with that fact, I'd rather have my photos be cheaper for someone to purchase (in the Sig + Collection) since I'm making the same amount as if it were in Vetta.



This is a good point. For some cases due to receiving lower royalties for Vetta, we actually make more off E+ (or S+) sales than Vetta sales. And since they're both at Getty there's little reason to have Vettas at all. I see no reason for us to have a much lower royalty rate for Vetta sales since (as far as I know) the cost for HQ is the same.


This is probably the biggest reason I have quit worrying about nominating photos for Vetta.


Don't forget that Vettas and Agency files still get a massive BM boost over E+ files. This is the major advantage of having a file in these collections (despite the lower royalty rate) and of course the very reason why iStock pushes Vetta and Agency files in front of buyers is that they earn an even bigger slice of the pie on their already elevated price point. I agree that iStock should be paying us our normal full royalty on all our files but those days are well and truly over. 


There might be a BM boost, but it seems that's offset by the large price difference between E+ and Vetta.  An XL E+ file is 45 credits, while a Vetta files at the same size costs 105 credits - many customers might pass on a Vetta file that they would have purchased at E+ prices.  As we get roughly the same royalty whether it's Vetta or E+, it's not clear that having files in the Vetta collection is an advantage.


When iStock decided to hike up the price for Vetta images, while massively lowering the royalty at the same time, IMO Vetta lost a lot of its attractiveness for both contributors and buyers.
RyersonClark
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Posted Tue May 28, 2013 9:02AM
Realisticly, I almost never nominate for vetta (even if I was good enough to get them) I like E+ much more and will put the good or rare ones there everytime.
lucentius
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Posted Tue May 28, 2013 9:10AM
If an image is selected for Signature+ can the keywords also be checked? It would be very attractive for buyers if they knew a particular collection was clean and relevant.
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Posted Tue May 28, 2013 8:20PM

Yeah, Vetta/Agency files don't seem to get as good of a BM boost as they used to. The only advantage I can see to having a file in Vetta is that you get more "Redeemed Credits" on a Vetta file download. Although that may not even be an advantage because you may get 2-3 people downloading an E+ file for every 1 Vetta because of the price difference.


The thing I don't like is that we won't be able to say that we don't want a file in Vetta. If iStock puts it in Vetta, tough cookies - it's in Vetta...
NicolasMcComber
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Posted Tue May 28, 2013 10:41PM
What will happen to files that are presently in the PP?

Are they eligible for contention to be in Sig+?

And if so, will they automatically be removed from PP after making it to Sig+?

(Edited on 2013-05-28 22:42:33 by NicolasMcComber)
Juanmonino
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Posted Wed May 29, 2013 6:45AM

Posted By NicolasMcComber:
What will happen to files that are presently in the PP?

Are they eligible for contention to be in Sig+?

And if so, will they automatically be removed from PP after making it to Sig+?

(Edited on 2013-05-28 22:42:33 by NicolasMcComber)



This is a very good question.
Lobo
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Posted Wed May 29, 2013 8:44AM

Posted By NicolasMcComber:
What will happen to files that are presently in the PP?

Are they eligible for contention to be in Sig+?

And if so, will they automatically be removed from PP after making it to Sig+?

(Edited on 2013-05-28 22:42:33 by NicolasMcComber)


The will remain in the PP.

I can't see why they wouldn't be eligible. If their sales on iStock show potential and the quality is inline with what the Signature + content would represent.

Anything that is mirrored will remain mirrored. Be it on GI or the PP sites.
NicolasMcComber
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Posted Wed May 29, 2013 9:50AM
Posted By Lobo:



Posted By NicolasMcComber:
What will happen to files that are presently in the PP?

Are they eligible for contention to be in Sig+?

And if so, will they automatically be removed from PP after making it to Sig+?

(Edited on 2013-05-28 22:42:33 by NicolasMcComber)



The will remain in the PP.

I can't see why they wouldn't be eligible. If their sales on iStock show potential and the quality is inline with what the Signature + content would represent.

Anything that is mirrored will remain mirrored. Be it on GI or the PP sites.


Thanks for the answer.


Next question: Once a file is in sig+, will we have the option to send it to PP too, or will it disappear from the PP list the way they disappear now when we put them in E+?


Should they stay on the PP list, then what if a new file makes it to sig+ and I decide to do send it to PP  to give it the best chance to be seen and sell on all the different GI markets, won't it then disappear from IS because of the (outdated) 18 months rule? Meaning it would end up being at GI and PP but not on IS? That would be pretty bizarre...
Lobo
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Posted Wed May 29, 2013 10:07AM
There will be some changes to a number of processes, but I don't think I will be able to provide a thorough breakdown in this thread. I'm pretty sure the 18 month rule will be one of the things that is made obsolete by the changes.
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