PHOTO: Cayman with bright back

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jluizmail
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Posted Tue May 21, 2013 3:15PM
One of my main concerns is not to over process an image, as this has been the complaint of a few inspectors when rejecting files I tried to save by making adjustments.
Here, I can see the back of this cayman shining a bit, but I am afraid of trying to get rid of it and ruining the file in the process. Should it be the case of leaving the poor reptile alone? Or will it be accepted since the animal was in the wild, and its leather can sometimes reflect light that way?
Cayman with shiny back

(Edited on 2013-05-21 15:16:02 by jluizmail)
donald_gruener
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Posted Tue May 21, 2013 6:05PM
That doesn't look too fixable in post. It's not a question of how its leather can sometimes reflect light. The lighting here is just too harsh. The shot might have worked if the cayman had been entirely in shadow.

In any case it's not very sharp, an additional technical flaw which will make it difficult to overlook the poor lighting.
pixzzle
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Posted Wed May 22, 2013 12:46AM
If you shot RAW you can try a self-HDR to save the shiney back. Reduce the exposure in raw processing until the back looks good, then blend selected areas of the back with another copy of the photo which is adjusted for the rest of the animal. 
jluizmail
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Posted Wed May 22, 2013 2:26AM
Thank you, friends!
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But I can say that I did misunderstand the "rules" when I first applied for submissions. I thought files needed to be with the least edition - if not unedited - to be approved. I submitted many files that had only been slightly tweaked in RAW processing, and nothing else.
Now, I will think all that over again.

(Edited on 2013-05-22 05:16:27 by jluizmail)
pixzzle
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Posted Wed May 22, 2013 10:22AM
Massive editing is permitted (except for editorial),
Scroll through this discussion to see examples of what is possible.
donald_gruener
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Posted Wed May 22, 2013 10:37AM
Oh yes. I don't think there is a single file in my portfolio that hasn't been manipulated in some way - with the exception of my editorial images.

Images submitted to the editorial collection must precisely reflect the reality of that moment. No retouching or selective editing.

For the main collection, however, the images are licensed for commercial use and pretty much anything goes, within certain limits:

-Any editing work should make sense within the context of the image, and serve to enhance & support the image concept. In other words, a grungy sepia treatment on a super modern skyscraper would probably get rejected, but the same treatment on an abandoned cabin would probably get accepted.

-Any editing work should not degrade the image quality, in terms of generating noise, posterization, or other artifacts.

-Editing work should be tastefully executed and masterfully crafted. We probably reject most often due to sloppy, imprecise editing and lack of attention to detail.
jluizmail
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Posted Wed May 22, 2013 6:44PM
Not this cayman of this post, then! But all others are up for skin treatment from now on.
Thank you, friends!
You have removed the veil from my eyes!
jluizmail
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Posted Sat May 25, 2013 9:20AM
This other picture is hoped to show better the details that were lost in the bright lights on the back of the cayman.
Would you now say this one has better chances than the other one?
My only concern is that the bog looks too polluted. Or would that be acceptable since the animal is in the wild?
Detail of cayman head and front leg
slobo
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Posted Sat May 25, 2013 1:31PM
Posted By jluizmail:
This other picture is hoped to show better the details that were lost in the bright lights on the back of the cayman.
Would you now say this one has better chances than the other one?
My only concern is that the bog looks too polluted. Or would that be acceptable since the animal is in the wild?
Detail of cayman head and front leg

 There are still some overexposed areas but overall it looks acceptable to me.
jluizmail
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Posted Sun May 26, 2013 11:55AM
Posted By slobo:
There are still some overexposed areas but overall it looks acceptable to me.

I used a different software to see if the result would be more acceptable without degrading image quality. Is it now?

Details of head and front leg / freeware edition
esp_imaging
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Posted Tue May 28, 2013 5:38AM

I think you are on for a lighting rejection with either version, the light is very harsh with very deep shadows.
Plus the branches and foreground are very distracting. I'd try to find better lit and composed shots, or move on to different subject matter.
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