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duckycards
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Posted Wed Aug 9, 2006 2:12PM

If a person submits an HD 1920 x 1080 video clip, will it also be available for download at all the other sizes as well? So the buyer would have the option of paying $50, $35, $20, $20 or $5 depending on the size/format they need? Or is HD ONLY HD?
sjlocke
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Posted Wed Aug 9, 2006 2:34PM
Yes. iStock is supposed to handle all the resizing. So shooting in HD is no guarantee of only selling HD.
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Posted Wed Aug 9, 2006 2:39PM
like shooting 12mpix pictures and selling 80% only in web-resolution...
toddmedia
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Posted Wed Aug 9, 2006 3:07PM

Posted By sjlocke:
Yes. iStock is supposed to handle all the resizing. So shooting in HD is no guarantee of only selling HD.


Uhhhhh.... yes ... and maybe no (?) Sizes, yes ... but iStock will not convert widescreen to 4:3. (My understanding)
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Posted Wed Aug 9, 2006 4:13PM
Posted By toddmedia:

Posted By sjlocke:
Yes. iStock is supposed to handle all the resizing. So shooting in HD is no guarantee of only selling HD.


Uhhhhh.... yes ... and maybe no (?) Sizes, yes ... but iStock will not convert widescreen to 4:3. (My understanding)

 

I sure hope so... 
duckycards
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Posted Wed Aug 9, 2006 7:51PM
This is all very new to me. I'm having a hard time figuring some of it out but I want to learn. I've managed to get approved for uploading and get one proxy accepted. I am considering buy an HDV camera - possibly the Sony HDR-HC3 or the new Canon one coming out soon. I don't think I would want to invest that much money if I was going to be limited to the HD categories only.
toddmedia
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Posted Wed Aug 9, 2006 10:27PM

Posted By duckycards:
...... I don't think I would want to invest that much money if I was going to be limited to the HD categories only.


You are not limited by having a HD camera. After you export the HD version out of your editing software ... convert to 4:3 and export out a NTSC version. Upload both

All this subject to confirmation by an Admin. LOL
duckycards
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Posted Wed Aug 9, 2006 11:23PM
Posted By toddmedia:

You are not limited by having a HD camera. After you export the HD version out of your editing software ... convert to 4:3 and export out a NTSC version. Upload both

All this subject to confirmation by an Admin. LOL



The only software I have currently is Quicktime Pro. Would that do it? Thanks for the help.


ETA: it would be great to hear from an admin on this too!

(Edited on 2006-08-09 23:25:31 by duckycards)
sjlocke
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Posted Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:41AM
I'd like confirmation. This sort of seems like stuffing the box.
toddmedia
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Posted Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:31AM

Posted By sjlocke:
I'd like confirmation. This sort of seems like stuffing the box.



iStock COULD convert HD to 4:3 in a letterbox .... but who would want that? Very few maybe.

Converting wide to full screen 4:3 means cropping the image. Think about graphics and on-screen text that may go side to side in the HD version. The contributor, if he wants a 4:3 version will have to create it separately.

Or even just a HD landscape outdoors scene. Who decides what part to crop? Both sides eually, or left or right? Only the photographer can decide where the 'information' lies in the shot.

Other option is for the buyer/editor to DL the HD version and crop himself. But will the 4:3 buyer even look for HD clips anyway? Time will tell on all of this. The search engine for videos will probably go through many updates as this rolls out. LOL

(Edited on 2006-08-10 06:34:50 by toddmedia)
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Posted Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:40AM
I think the best way to handle all this would be if the contributor is allowed to tick boxes that specify which formats to convert it to, and which they'd like to do the conversion on themselves.
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Posted Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:33PM
Not sure that it's wise to let a server auto-downconvert the footage, unless the user can check boxes such as "letterbox 4:3" or "pan and scan 4:3 Full Frame" to choose which would be best.  You need not crop to get 16:9 HD down to SD, but you do have to letterbox.  Some shows may be editing full screen and may not want to insert a wide-screened shot or vice versa.  ANd - we haven't even bugun to discuss international formats!  I believe HD is actually specific to each region as well (having worked with Sony's HDCam format I read alot about this a few years back.  I wonder if PAL is converted to NTSC would it pass the quality control then?  Perhaps a few more check boxes "SECAM to PAL" etc etc...  Video is much fussier than stills for end-user delivery.  A 300 dpi jpeg is a lot more universal...


Good luck guys.

(Edited on 2006-08-10 22:33:28 by Jer1)
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