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tirc83
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Posted Tue May 8, 2007 5:03AM

I must say that the IOTW is very impressive and a worthy choice.


However, had I taken it, I'm not sure I would have kept it let alone uploaded it. I think my trouble is that I can't see the 'art' in an image - only the nuts and bolts of composition and focus etc.


This image has widened my photographic horizons.
sjlocke
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Posted Tue May 8, 2007 5:09AM
I wouldn't have, and to be honest, I'm surprised it was accepted. However, I didn't want to blemish the 116 "5" reviews with my thoughts. Maybe I have issues with "art" as well. I don't really see it as "art", less so stock anymore than any other blurry abstract. If this was a race car instead of exotic animals, would it be less "art"?

(Edited on 2007-05-08 06:13:08 by sjlocke)
jimd_stock
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Posted Tue May 8, 2007 5:18AM

It seems to me that the differnce between 'art' and 'stock' have been drilled into our heads. However, the IOTW does convey th concept of speed quite clearly  (if not clear) and while it does not follow the 'photographers manual', it can be argued that it conveys a stock concept very well. 


If this was a well planned shot, then kudos.  Otherwise, if this was a bit of serendipity, then we should all be so lucky.


 


 
dorioconnell
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Posted Tue May 8, 2007 5:36AM
if you look at Kitch's portfolio it is very obvious he is not just lucky with his work. Congratulation Kitch, it is a great image!
anouchka
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Posted Tue May 8, 2007 5:38AM
I would upload but unfortunately i still have no such great image.
Thomas_EyeDesign
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Posted Tue May 8, 2007 5:39AM
The image works for me, it about movement. Nice to see a stock shot not done on a white background.
swilmor
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Posted Tue May 8, 2007 5:59AM
I think it's great! But, I do tend to see things more from the art side as I'm quite new to stock...
mcsilvey
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Posted Tue May 8, 2007 5:59AM

Gary

You are absolutely correct in your observation about the
IOTW. I have that happen to me with many images here, and maybe it is
my technical background in photography that has formed an inability to
look at a scene a see the potential that others see. I often find
though that doing something outside my comfort zone produces surprising
results that pushes my technical sensibilities to a more creative
space. 

 

Charlie



Posted By tirc83:

I must say that the IOTW is very impressive and a worthy choice.


However, had I taken it, I'm not sure I would have kept it let alone uploaded it. I think my trouble is that I can't see the 'art' in an image - only the nuts and bolts of composition and focus etc.


This image has widened my photographic horizons.
sakaasa
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Posted Tue May 8, 2007 6:20AM

Posted By anouchka:
I would upload but unfortunately i still have no such great image.


We shared the same thought I love images that live, breath and tell their story. Sometimes I see them in my head, but they are very hard to capture with a camera.

I really, really like the IOTW. Congrats Kitch!
jtyler
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Posted Tue May 8, 2007 6:31AM
I agree with Sharon.  I would have been gloriously happy to have luckily taken that shot - and absolutely ecstatic if I had planned it and succeeded.  Many of the IOTW do not always turn out to be best sellers, but then again some you don't think will succeed do.  Since it has already been DL'ed 15 times - someone is finding it useful.  Also, there have been articles about people buying these images to use as relatively inexpensive "art" in their homes and offices.  Wonderful shot Kitch.
CWLawrence
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Posted Tue May 8, 2007 6:40AM
I hear ya tirc, this image does not follow the stock guidelines - and yet it is beautiful, compelling, and iconic. Hows that? I suppose the rules will always be broken by the few exceptions; images that have an abstract, impressionistic quality while still creating a strong message (i.e. 'Welcome to Australia's outback, Mate'). I have an image from my trip to loas of an old hilltribe woman carrying wood that probably wouldn't pass the inspection queue, yet I still find it as a very strong image. Not nearly as well voiced as the IOTW, but compelling nonetheless. Mine was luck (or accident) BTW.

I am glad to see that the inspectors passed the kangaroos, they have discerning eyes and an unnatural love of Australian wildlife.

ETA: fixed the link

(Edited on 2007-05-08 06:41:49 by CWLawrence)
standby
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Posted Tue May 8, 2007 7:17AM

Good on ya It's Fab and does have a certain 'feel' to it ......


As regards motion Blur nearly did not put this one up of my Spaniel legging it with The Car Sponge *giggles* should not have bothered as it was rejected.  No grumbles here just kindda summed up the moment for me so thought well lets have a go that little ***** has never stopped running long enough since I got her to get the Image I want LOL


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Congrats to you btw Fab Portfolio


Sue


 
Alfsky
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Posted Tue May 8, 2007 7:17AM
I really do love the shot,great colours with the element of speed.One thing I must say is wheres the clear focal point,suppose there must be one but I cant see it.Just rated it in case any of you think im sniping!
YinYang
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Posted Tue May 8, 2007 7:58AM
It is a very good question. I love the picture. Personally, I don't think a clear sharp image is an absolutely neccesary element to be a great photo, An intentional, consicious aesthetic logic in itself can be sufficient to express the message.
benoitb
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Posted Tue May 8, 2007 8:00AM
It's a superb image and you can see and feel the speed in it. I love it.
ManicBlu
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Posted Tue May 8, 2007 8:05AM
I didn't even bother looking for focus as it was easy to see it was all about color, life, movement. Excellent!
sylvanworksCLOSED
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Posted Tue May 8, 2007 8:14AM
It is a very tricky thing to bring someone's image into the forums for a discussion about it, so please continue to be mindful of the contributor who produced this image and did not ask for this 15 minutes of fame

I do think it is a teachable moment though, so as long as we are respectful let's continue.

First put out of your minds that this image is somehow "art" but not "stock". Here is why it is not only "stock", but great stock:

"... the IOTW does convey th concept of speed quite clearly" - jimd_stock

"The image works for me, it about movement... " -Thomas_EyeDesign

"I love images that live, breath and tell their story." - sakaasa

"it is beautiful, compelling, and iconic." - CWLawrence

"It's Fab and does have a certain 'feel' to it ..." - standby

"I really do love the shot,great colours with the element of speed." - Alfsky

"An intentional, consicious aesthetic logic in itself can be sufficient to express the message." - YinYang

"It's a superb image and you can see and feel the speed in it. I love it." - benoitb

"I didn't even bother looking for focus as it was easy to see it was all about color, life, movement. Excellent!" - ManicBlu

If that is not a description of great stock, then I don't know what is.

I'll add my own comments ... There is no doubt about what the subject of this image is. The uncluttered background supports the subject by adding color and texture as well as a sense of place, and even plenty of room for copy. This subject lends itself to this type of technique.

Looking at some of the other examples posted (in a respectful way) ...

In contrast, "an old hilltribe woman carrying wood" doesn't exactly scream "speedy", but furthermore, the motion trail looks more like the photographer was in motion.

Just going from the thumb of the dog above, the motion trail doesn't seem to match with the motion of the dog, it looks more like the dog is being spun in a circle than running fast. So while the subject can certainly be used to convey speed the elements of this image don't come together in the same way. The bright yellow rectangle in its face is not clear enough to convey what it is and seems to distract more than support the composition.

Here is a tutorial on the technique that also has some great examples.

Hope that helps, and congrats to Kitch on a wonderful image!

(Edited on 2007-05-08 08:17:03 by sylvanworks)
Alfsky
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Posted Tue May 8, 2007 8:25AM
Brilliant tutorial sylvan...wish there was a bit more light out at the mo just to "give it a go"
standby
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Posted Tue May 8, 2007 8:26AM

Oopsy  sorry lesson one read befor you jump in Sue ( talk about motion blur lol ) thought it was the contributor saying they nearly did not upload.....


Anyhoo like I said Fab Image really liked it when I first saw it great feeling of movment and Colour also Fab  Porfolio so much deserved IMO


Pleased my Image was of some use eh Rob


Sue
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Posted Tue May 8, 2007 8:37AM
Thanks for sharing, as I knew your sense of self confidence could take it!

You are very talented and have a strong portfolio.
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