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tirc83
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Posted Wed May 9, 2007 12:17PM

uploading an image with similar content, I uploaded this and had it rejected beacause London cab designs are copyrighted. I'm sure the same must be true of double-decker buses, so don't waste your time uploading views of london containing these.


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vandervelden
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Posted Wed May 9, 2007 12:37PM

And don't do a search for the phrase 'black cab' because ...
tirc83
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Posted Wed May 9, 2007 12:43PM
Posted By vandervelden:

And don't do a search for the phrase 'black cab' because ...

Well buquer me!

Here's the rejection text .. This file includes content that may be subject to copyright or trademark protection (The LTI Black Taxi design is trademarked by LTI Vehicles, Coventry, England). Certain use of this file creates risk of infringement and we regret that it cannot be accepted, unless this content is removed from the file.
SoopySue
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Posted Wed May 9, 2007 2:18PM
Posted By vandervelden:

And don't do a search for the phrase 'black cab' because ...


That's a lot fewer than there were the last time this was raised.

Trouble is recognising an LTI vehicle when you see one ... 
kelvinjay
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Posted Wed May 9, 2007 3:04PM

Posted By SoopySue:
Posted By vandervelden:

And don't do a search for the phrase 'black cab' because ...


That's a lot fewer than there were the last time this was raised.

Trouble is recognising an LTI vehicle when you see one ...


Yeah but one shot of a cab that's been approved has racked up a reasonable number of sales though. I researched this a while ago and the upshot of reading their info was that they applied their control even to old models of cabs like the FX4s produced by their predecessor companies that they bought out. So basically all black cabs are off limits, except i think metrocabs, which weren't made by LTI - but they're pretty ugly and square.

(Edited on 2007-05-09 15:08:46 by kelvinjay)

(Edited on 2007-05-10 03:16:49 by kelvinjay)
SoopySue
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Posted Wed May 9, 2007 3:16PM
There are 47 'London taxi' pics, but I wouldn't presume to be able to tell their manufacturer. They might all be metrocabs FAIK.
EricFerguson
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Posted Wed May 9, 2007 7:05PM
Anyone with half a block of cheese in their brain can recognize half of the car models on the site, which are clearly protected.  Let it go. 
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Posted Thu May 10, 2007 1:10AM
LTI Black Taxi design is indeed trademarked, as with all things, there may be some older files or files that snuck in here on iStock. Those will be dealt with. Thank you for understanding.
vandervelden
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Posted Wed May 23, 2007 10:10AM

This might be of interest. Correspondence to LTI of Coventry regarding the copyright/trademark issue of their taxis and their reply. I'm not sure it's clear enough, but it does appear to say that their interest is only in protecting photographs to which they own the copyright and they're not interested in other photos.


Any comments?


Dear Sirs,
Can you please advise me of the legal position with regard to selling
photographs via the Internet where those photographs include an LTI vehicle
- namely a 'black cab'.
For example, a general London Street scene where there are one or more black
cabs within the picture.
For example, a person (model with model release) paying a black cab where
the whole or part of the cab plays a large part in the photograph.
I am most grateful for your help.
kind regards,
Maurice van der Velden 


 


Hello Maurice,

With regards to the info requested below please find ;

The copyright issues as I understand it are, that a registered vehicle is
not of our commerical concern as it is classed as a private vehicle.
If the featured taxi in any photo is from our image library - i.e. without
registered plates, then we have a duty to respond and protect our brand.

I hope this clears the situation for you. If you need further clarification,
please do not hesitate to contact me again.

Regards,

Rita Patel
Marketing Support Administrator
LTI Vehicles
Holyhead Rd
Coventry
CV5 8JJ
SoopySue
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Posted Wed May 23, 2007 11:48AM
Posted By vandervelden:

With regards to the info requested below please find ;

The copyright issues as I understand it are, that a registered vehicle is
not of our commerical concern as it is classed as a private vehicle.
If the featured taxi in any photo is from our image library - i.e. without
registered plates, then we have a duty to respond and protect our brand.




The statement, while it would seem to allow black cab images, is slightly ambiguous with re iStock use, as she says the is protecting images from their image library, but specifies 'without registered plates', and of course, we have to clone out number plates (which is what I presume she means, or does she mean the licensed taxi notices?

Still, it does look as though black cabs would be permitted as part of an image, provided not taken from their image library. Have you forwarded the letter to Support for an opinion?
vandervelden
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Posted Wed May 23, 2007 12:48PM
Registered plates - I take this to mean DVLC plates. In other words, brand new LTI vehicles, without registration plates, not yet registered with the DVLC, and for which LTI own the copyright to the photographs.


I haven't forwarded this to Support, but I have sitemailed the OP in case he wishes to take it further.

(Edited on 2007-05-23 13:23:46 by vandervelden)
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