questions about constructing files

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dee-jay
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Posted Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:20AM

Hi all,


I've never been trained to use illustrator so I learned a lot of my illustrator technique from online tutorials and, of course, from the great info in these threads. But I wonder if someone could explain to me (or direct me to a good resource about) the best way to consruct files (i.e., put the shapes together) that would make my files as useable as possible.


Recently there was a thread where Dave T. talked about posting the outlines of his files to show how cleanly they're made. But how do you do that? And when? What part of the workflow?


Here's an example:


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In #2 I moved the shapes to show they're sitting on top of one another. I take it that's not what I should be going for. In the end should it be like #3? But I had trouble with the shadow since no matter how I tried to make it a separate shape (divide, trim...) I got all those extra tiny shapes. I had used intersect to make the shadow in the first place.


And when do I do this? At the end, once everything is looking the way I want? Because once the shapes are separate it's hard to move things around.


Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!


Dawn
joto
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Posted Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:47AM

I'm no expert either, but I think option 2 would be the option to go for. That way you can move, adjust or delete shapes more easily.

If you combine shapes it gives a lot of unnecessary nodes that will make a shape difficult to adjust (see the outline preview in your example. The file should be contain as little nodes as possible.
pearley
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Posted Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:08AM

Option 2 is the way to go. Duplicate your base circle and use the Shape Mode tools instead of the pathfinder. Check out this thread for some more info:


http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=62146&page=1


 
jsnyderdesign
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Posted Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:08AM
I agree with joto (edited to add "and pearley") , and I believe this would be preferred by iStock as well. There is no reason to avoid having shapes sit on top of other shapes. This will actually give the user more options with the file since they can delete the top shape, and still have the bottom shape completely intact.

(Edited on 2007-12-28 09:10:34 by jsnyderdesign)
dee-jay
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Posted Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:37AM

Thank you all! That's the way I have been doing things but I was starting to get the idea that it was a no no.


I agree, Jim, I was thinking the file would be really difficult to edit because nothing would be intact. 


Thanks for the link to the thread, Phil. I must have misread it the first time because I was thinking that it was the cutout that you were recommending. But what are the "shape mode tools"?
pearley
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Posted Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:52PM

They're the row of tools above the pathfinder row. 


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Posted By dee-jay:

Thank you all! That's the way I have been doing things but I was starting to get the idea that it was a no no.


I agree, Jim, I was thinking the file would be really difficult to edit because nothing would be intact.


Thanks for the link to the thread, Phil. I must have misread it the first time because I was thinking that it was the cutout that you were recommending. But what are the "shape mode tools"?
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