Talking Politics ... Ground rules?

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sylvanworksCLOSED
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Posted Fri Jan 4, 2008 2:14PM
OK, with the US presidential election cycle in full swing I thought I'd see if there was any chance we could lay out some ground rules for how we treat each other in those discussions.

Of all topics that get brought into the forums it has been my experience that the political one's almost universally bring out the worst in many of us (myself included).

I still have regrets about things that were said back in the 2004 election cycle, and would like to not repeat that this time around.

So, what do you all say?
caspixel
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Posted Fri Jan 4, 2008 2:17PM
Ground rules work for me. You know I need boundaries. big grin
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Posted Fri Jan 4, 2008 2:17PM
Forget it !  I will disagree, cut,slash, offend any who disagree with me.
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Posted Fri Jan 4, 2008 2:24PM
I think the same ground rules should apply as should apply anywhere:

1. Posted comments should be restricted to the issue, not the person talking about the issue, not the tone of the people talking about the issue, not the validity of the issue, not whether the thread is internally consistent, has stayed on topic et cetera, barring non-sequitur leaps into the absurd for comic relief.
2. Don't take it personally if someone disagrees with you and tears your point of view to shreds, it's only your point of view, not you personally. No personal attacks, period.
3. Don't post if you can't handle those two rules.
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Posted Fri Jan 4, 2008 2:32PM
Posted By sylvanworks:
OK, with the US presidential election cycle in full swing I thought I'd see if there was any chance we could lay out some ground rules for how we treat each other in those discussions.

Of all topics that get brought into the forums it has been my experience that the political one's almost universally bring out the worst in many of us (myself included).

I still have regrets about things that were said back in the 2004 election cycle, and would like to not repeat that this time around.

So, what do you all say?

 

Nice idea but not a chance, just wait until the the three letter word beginning with G is mentioned. I see a busy period for you Rob.  
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Posted Fri Jan 4, 2008 2:45PM
Posted By sylvanworks:
OK, with the US presidential election cycle in full swing I thought I'd see if there was any chance we could lay out some ground rules for how we treat each other in those discussions.

Of all topics that get brought into the forums it has been my experience that the political one's almost universally bring out the worst in many of us (myself included).

I still have regrets about things that were said back in the 2004 election cycle, and would like to not repeat that this time around.

So, what do you all say?

Agreed.

And glad I wasn't here for the oh-four cycle!



Posted By zerocattle:
I think the same ground rules should apply as should apply anywhere:

1. Posted comments should be restricted to the issue, not the person talking about the issue, not the tone of the people talking about the issue, not the validity of the issue, not whether the thread is internally consistent, has stayed on topic et cetera, barring non-sequitur leaps into the absurd for comic relief.
2. Don't take it personally if someone disagrees with you and tears your point of view to shreds, it's only your point of view, not you personally. No personal attacks, period.
3. Don't post if you can't handle those two rules.

Agreed.
qingwa
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Posted Fri Jan 4, 2008 2:50PM

1) Don't talk about fight club

2) Personal attacks will result in a time out


3) Sarcasim often does not translate well on-line.  Use it at your peril 

 
MikkoSuhonen
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Posted Fri Jan 4, 2008 2:59PM
Can you define ways to have a conversation ? Is the tone and rules different if it's a discussion or a debate ?
If not could special rules be made for aggressive conversation ? Steel cage of politics where there are no rules ? Or why not start a Steel cage battle to settle political differences.

(Edited on 2008-01-04 15:01:10 by fixpixel)
caspixel
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Posted Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:05PM
Posted By qingwa:

1) Don't talk about fight club

2) Don't talk about fight club


3) Don't talk about fight club

LOL. There. fixed.
5Starrebel
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Posted Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:05PM
I think before starting any political conversation we should all watch this video to make sure we're on the same page.
sylvanworksCLOSED
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Posted Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:25PM
Maintaining a sense of humor and not taking oneself too seriously is key.
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Posted Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:31PM
thread is locked when someone loses an eye.

And there's no crying in the octagon!
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Posted Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:39PM
2004? I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday.
blackwaterimages
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Posted Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:42PM
I wouldn't mind seeing politics and religion become topics that simply aren't allowed in these forums. Probably not a popular suggestion, but its not like there aren't plenty of other places to discuss these things online.
sylvanworksCLOSED
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Posted Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:45PM
That's an option I suppose ... but people do like to talk about those things, and it is not the subject that I have a problem with .. just how we treat each other.
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Posted Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:53PM

Posted By blaneyphoto:
I wouldn't mind seeing politics and religion become topics that simply aren't allowed in these forums.


Sounds unworkable. So many things cross over into another. If you banned politics, you could end up banning all discussion of taxes, health care, education, economics, history, trade, war, law, sex, communication and pretty much anything else.

Everything has a political dimension because politicians now seem to be obliged to hold an opinion on absolutely everything. When was the last time you heard one honestly say "I dunno, I never really thought about it..."?

I fear that without things to discuss that we care about, the OT forum would just become a repository for people to post links to YouTube clips of cats and exploding mentos etc

(Edited on 2008-01-04 15:55:40 by kelvinjay)
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Posted Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:53PM
Posted By caspixel: Ground rules work for me. You know I need boundaries. "big


this made me laugh out loud - it's the cheesy smile

Posted By blaneyphoto:
...but its not like there aren't plenty of other places to discuss these things online.


you're right, but these are familiar grounds and familiar people for many of us. I know that I wouldn't be able to hold a candle to many comments in an agressive situation on a different forum made for this. I know here that I can have a discussion that may get heated but, really, we're all still friends.


 
PickStock
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Posted Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:55PM
Posted By blaneyphoto:
I wouldn't mind seeing politics and religion become topics that simply aren't allowed in these forums. Probably not a popular suggestion, but its not like there aren't plenty of other places to discuss these things online. 
Here Here ! Go to your Political and Religious Blogs if you insist on talking this jive ! 
blackwaterimages
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Posted Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:56PM

Posted By pink_cotton_candy:
really, we're all still friends.


I'm not so sure that's true... but I get your point. And as I said, I knew it would be an unpopular suggestion - just figured I'd throw the idea out there though.
PickStock
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Posted Fri Jan 4, 2008 3:59PM
. I know here that I can have a discussion that may get heated but, really, we're all still friends.


Oh..... if you only knew !  Some people go as far to Sitemail you with hate messages. Those radicals are the ones who can really get on peoples nerves. I don't hate anyone here... but sure do dislike them a whole hell of a lot ! And am sure the feeling is mutual !
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