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retroimages
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Posted Fri May 16, 2008 4:12AM

What's everyone else doing regarding talent releases?


If I am a member, writer, composer, recorder etc of everything I upload, do I really have to write out a separate Talent Release for each clip I upload or can I create a generic one, get it witnessed and upload that each time?


Advice appreciated
FuzzMartin
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Posted Fri May 16, 2008 4:32AM

After the first four... I started just writing everything on the line on one sheet.


Example:


SFXs: voicework, pouring water, cutting paper, cowbell...


 


Save the trees!!!
EnkiMotion
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Posted Fri May 16, 2008 6:16AM
That really doesn't answer timeflight's question, and I was wondering precisely the same thing. I have no less than 40-50 songs, foley, fx and so on sitting on my hdd's that I've created and are just itching to get uploaded right now. Do I really really have to make my friends sign 50 individual talent releases? I have a lot of beers & burgers to buy....
sjlocke
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Posted Fri May 16, 2008 7:02AM
If the friends took part in the production, then sure. No different than MRs. I am uploading the same release for me, however.
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Posted Fri May 16, 2008 7:42AM
Slightly off-topic, but if I have a recording of, for example, a crowd cheering, do I need several hundred people to sign the release?
EnkiMotion
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Posted Fri May 16, 2008 8:13AM
I imagine it's a similar situation to photography. Can any individual in this crowd identify him or herself, and prove that you recorded them?
FuzzMartin
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Posted Fri May 16, 2008 8:18AM
Posted By onfilm:
Slightly off-topic, but if I have a recording of, for example, a crowd cheering, do I need several hundred people to sign the release?

A crowd cheering would be okay as long as there are no identifiable voices. Especially look out for the stadium announcers. A good crowd-cheering file would have no distinguishable words -- unless the crowd was cheering something generic in unison (ex: "goooooal," or "de-fense"). Just make sure it's not "Go Pack Go" or anything that violates iStocks terms.
RonTech2000
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Posted Fri May 16, 2008 9:33AM

For solo stuff, I've made one that says "Everything" under the summary of input and I plan to use it lots of times*.  Kind of makes you wish for a release library where you could just check it off each time instead of uploading.


* haven't actually uploaded one yet though, so not to be construed as sound advice (are we doing puns in this forum?)
apashack
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Posted Fri May 16, 2008 6:23PM
Posted By RonTech2000:

For solo stuff, I've made one that says "Everything" under the summary of input and I plan to use it lots of times*. Kind of makes you wish for a release library where you could just check it off each time instead of uploading.


* haven't actually uploaded one yet though, so not to be construed as sound advice (are we doing puns in this forum?)

Let me know if that works.  It's going to kill a lot of trees if we have to submit a new release for each file.  I can see needing a release for vocals and the like.  But if I recorded it, produced it and the only involved in the entire process I would hope a generic form would work.  I'm going to wait to see how this plays out.  Right now it's a lot of work for each file IMO.  There has to be a better way......PLEASE find one.  By the way, between the wav file and then the release, you guys are going to eat up bandwidth unnecessarily for sure.....That cost you money doesn't it?  If you would store the release you would save lots of bandwidth wouldn’t you?  Same goes for model releases too BTW.  Just an idea.
Decard
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Posted Sat May 17, 2008 10:13AM

Like in my case I am the only creator of all the work i summit to istock ....... after the first talent release it should be an easier way .....  I just dont like to abuse the few resources  we have left ..... water , food oh yeah & the trees : )


I do understand that is needed when the guys go out with their mobile gear or do not create any material themselves but for us composer there should be some trust .... & never the less Istock is very good on finding out the fake ones : )
JamersonG
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Posted Mon May 19, 2008 7:09AM

This is another area I'm finding hard to accept as 'the best solution'


I think iStock should definitely consider adding a check box to the upload confirmation screen which says "I am the sole creator of all aspects of this work" or something, so talent releases are only required for pieces where talent other than your own is involved.  I imagine, like me, most contributors will be doing all the work themselves; whether it's computer-sequenced music or simple sound effects.


Not only is it going to royally p*ss people off constantly printing, writing and scanning these things, but it can potentially waste thousands of sheets of paper throughout someone's iStockAudio career!


Heck, I don't have to sign a form saying "I'm the one who tripped the shutter release" for each of my photo uploads - I just tick the box saying I own the copyright


Considering iStock want to build a good size library before going live, I'd urge them to change this procedure ASAP so as to avoid a frustrating summer for the artists!
sjlocke
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Posted Mon May 19, 2008 7:30AM
I've used one talent release for myself for all my submissions. I put "recording/talent" in the description line.
apashack
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Posted Mon May 19, 2008 7:32AM
It really seems that IS didn’t research the industry of audio very well.  It looks like they are “Learning on the fly”.  One would think that they would have involved an industry professional before taking on uploads.  It seems that the entire process needs to be reworked.  This is what happens when bean counters and lawyers make the rules.  It’s become quite obvious that the powers to be here are flying by the seat or their pants.
 
The “Watermark” couldn’t have been decided on by anyone with experience.
 
The visual representation of the file is just a joke.  (Tracks on the “Approved/Pending” page aren’t identifiable)
 
Uploading a new release for simple tracks where no one is involved except the copyright holder is “Overkill and not needed”
 
The 5 second minimum will cause redundancy and a waste of time and bandwidth.
 
Did iStock not have anything here but a good idea?  Does iStock not see that there are people here in the forums with very sound advice?  IStock may have the image thing dead on but when it comes to audio I think they are learning as they go.  There is no way they have a industry insider involved in this process.
JamersonG
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Posted Mon May 19, 2008 8:43AM

Perhaps they are learning on the fly, but it's not like they're not taking suggestions into consideration.  I have no major problem with the current issues as long as they get addressed in time.  At the end of the day it will be iStock losing out if they don't correct these things in the long term, so give 'em a chance to tweak it..


It's certinly not worth getting angry about.  Anyway, if someone had asked me whether I'd rather be allowed to start upoading on a 'beta' system now, or wait another few months for everything to be ship-shape, I'd have gone with the first choice
apashack
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Posted Mon May 19, 2008 9:21AM
I’m not angry in the least.  I’m just a little disappointed so far.  I too hope they will take our constructive criticism as viable and make the changes in a timely manner.
 
I’m grateful to potentially add to my income stream.  However, iStock takes very few suggestions from its contributors on the photo side of the game.  I just hope they don’t pretend to have all the answers in audio and ignore the issues being repeated over and over again form those who seem to know much more than they do located here in the forums.
 
It just shows that everything with audio has come from the current management in the photo division.  There is no way they hired an audio expert to oversee the process.  With that being the case, I hope they will listen to us.
 
Bottom line is I think a MicroAudio industry is a great idea and my hat goes off to iS for taking the leap.  However I also hope they will admit that the system currently in place needs lots of work.  The folks here have had some really good ideas so far.  Now let’s see them put into practice and make iStockAudio the best it can be.
PJ Hudson
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Posted Mon May 19, 2008 9:38AM

WAIT a second!!!  how long has istockaudio been in existence... ummmm 1 week?


I can guarantee there will be loads of re-working, perfecting, fine tuning and pruning before this baby goes live.... at moment, thats not until the fall... could be later, but I wouldn't worry about it all right now....
JamersonG
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Posted Mon May 19, 2008 10:02AM
Indeed.. let's all go grab a beer
wdstock
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Posted Tue May 20, 2008 8:14PM
Posted By sjlocke:
I've used one talent release for myself for all my submissions. I put "recording/talent" in the description line.


Sean, what do you put in the "Audio Content" isn't that different for each submission?
LLMillerMediaCLOSED
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Posted Tue May 20, 2008 10:03PM
One release for me as well. If you are the talent and record it that is all you need.
matsov
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Posted Thu May 22, 2008 2:05AM
would like to get an admin opinion on that, cause I dont have an digi cam or scanner to go with different talent release with every sample.
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