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thepugnatious
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Posted Thu May 22, 2008 1:11PM
Posted By apashack:
I’m not angry in the least. I’m just a little disappointed so far. I too hope they will take our constructive criticism as viable and make the changes in a timely manner.

I’m grateful to potentially add to my income stream. However, iStock takes very few suggestions from its contributors on the photo side of the game. I just hope they don’t pretend to have all the answers in audio and ignore the issues being repeated over and over again form those who seem to know much more than they do located here in the forums.

It just shows that everything with audio has come from the current management in the photo division. There is no way they hired an audio expert to oversee the process. With that being the case, I hope they will listen to us.

Bottom line is I think a MicroAudio industry is a great idea and my hat goes off to iS for taking the leap. However I also hope they will admit that the system currently in place needs lots of work. The folks here have had some really good ideas so far. Now let’s see them put into practice and make iStockAudio the best it can be.


So lets deal with this first...


It may not look like it but yes there are several audio experts that are in house at HQ, hired expressly for the upcoming audio project. While none of us claim to know everything we do have over 50 combined years of experience in various sections of the audio world.


Secondly, I am the rest of the team highly value your suggestions. That goes for audio, as well as photo, and video. We have very in depth conversations about the communities concerns and address each one. Just because we do not agree on each and every concern or implement everything does not mean we have not taken your comments into consideration.


As far as the various imperfections with the audio program, WE ARE 1 WEEK OLD... Also at this point we are only taking submission into the collection, many of the full set of features that we plan on implementing into the collection are non-existent right now, or have known problems that are being worked on. For example our watermark is only a temporary one while we are waiting on some systems to properly implement the watermark, the waveform view only loosely represents the file, we know this and are working on a solution for the near future.


You may be surprised to know that none of your concerns are new, we have discussed most of these issues before audio launched, however at this point we are only accepting files into the collection, and therefore some of the audio features will be implemented in time.


There are some features that we will not all see eye to eye on, feel free to let us know what you think should change. We do read the forums we do listen to you, and we do discuss all of your concerns.


If you have a deep seeded need remember that you can always email us @ onedeafear@istockphoto.com
Lobo
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Posted Thu May 22, 2008 1:13PM
Let's bring the conversation back to the original subject. Hijacking threads isn't cool. 
thepugnatious
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Posted Thu May 22, 2008 1:22PM
As to the wonderfull lobos request....


The Talent releases....


So, while we would all like to believe that our talent release policy is overkill... It is NOT, this is absolutely necessary, we seem to forget that we are selling audio world wide, because of this we need to have a standard that is effective over the whole planet. This introduces restrictions that many of us are not familiar with.


As to the implementation of talent releases:
If you are creating a batch of files that are the same type of compositions all created solely by you the contributor, you can go the route of creating a single release for the batch of uploads. All we ask is that you create a new release each month so that the release date matches the upload date.


However musical files MUST - minimally indicate the composer, performer, and recording engineer as each musical composition has these positions. If there are other participants, record labels (yes some indie labels have non PRO members), producers, writers, etc. They all need to sign the release.


AND YES, each individual needs to have a witness; it protects you from having others claim ownership over your material, as well as us from having you claim to create something you did not.

(Edited on 2008-05-22 13:22:43 by thepugnatious)
Beano5
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Posted Thu May 22, 2008 3:29PM

Well I had 3 talent release forms, but all of the submissions got declined (not rejected though, they aren't in my rejection list, Thanks iStock!) for not having the model release form filledi n properly.  Since my files are converted midis, they techincally don't have a performer and they are converts so I didn't record them but I did compose them.  The rejection said this:



We need more information with your talent release. Please ensure that the release includes the composer(s)/writer, performer(s), recording engineer(s), or other parties involved in a musical piece. If you the contributor are all of the above please indicate so on the talent release.


I have to fill out my name all those times - it's almost worth getting a stamp!
bonesmear
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Posted Thu May 22, 2008 4:40PM
Posted By Beano5:

Well I had 3 talent release forms, but all of the submissions got declined (not rejected though, they aren't in my rejection list, Thanks iStock!) for not having the model release form filledi n properly. Since my files are converted midis, they techincally don't have a performer and they are converts so I didn't record them but I did compose them. The rejection said this:



We need more information with your talent release. Please ensure that the release includes the composer(s)/writer, performer(s), recording engineer(s), or other parties involved in a musical piece. If you the contributor are all of the above please indicate so on the talent release.


I have to fill out my name all those times - it's almost worth getting a stamp!



With this particular release you had listed yourself as the composer. That takes care of the rights associated with having written the music. We also have to take into account the rights associated with the recording itself and the engineering of those recordings there is also the possibility that someone produced thee tracks. Though it may not be the case in your scenario we need to make sure. Thats why you need to list yourself as responsible for all these stages in the production chain. Even though they started as midi files they were at some point converted into audio files by an engineer( You ) in that process a producer may have chosen the tones or samples that would be triggered by that midi file (you ) and these rights need to be accounted for.


This may feel cumbersome but we are doing something innovative in an environment of old tradition and it will require a certain discipline to make it happen. Because of the laws that are in place and differ from market to market we have to be sure we cover yours and our bases legally. In the future list in the summary as: Completely composed, produced and recorded by.


Like any start up it will take a large community some time to see the logic in some of the steps we have to take but from shaky legs has sprouted iStock photo and video and now audio.

(Edited on 2008-05-22 16:42:28 by bonesmear)
wdstock
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Posted Thu May 22, 2008 6:35PM
Thanks for the clarifications!
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