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lostinbids
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Posted Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:34PM
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I just had this one rejected with a No Resubmit


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full size view http://a6.vox.com/6a00e398be8445000400fad6925c160005-pi


I was wondering where I have gone wrong. It is again a 255 backgound with a slight shadow (which the designer could remove with the dodge tool if he/she wanted to put the subject on a different background). The colours are pretty accurate to the items (however they look a little flatter on vox than viewing in either PS or NX). So I am wonder what I could of done better.


Thank you in advance Jo


P.S. I guess one thing I should of done was dusted them prior to shooting, but it is a lighting rejection not a dusting rejection smile


I also had this one too with the same lighting reason


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Full size link http://a6.vox.com/6a00e398be8445000400fa968029160002-pi


Thanks Jo

(Edited on 2008-06-20 12:44:09 by lostinbids)
jsnover
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Posted Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:54PM
They both look a bit washed out, but nothing that a small tweak with a curves adjustment layer couldn't fix. Perhaps make a version with better midtones and ask scout to make this a Can Resubmit?
redmal
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Posted Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:57PM
I agree with jsover, but I don't really understand the British Zibabwe match, I know its a former colony but it seem quite limited in appeal. I think the first one may as well all be in focus as the little bit that is out of focus adds nothing to the image. The second one seems a bit noisey to me but nice idea, try it with other currencies as well. Personally I would just reshoot them as it's probably less time and trouble.
lostinbids
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Posted Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:03PM

Hi jsnover - Thanks for the advice with the curves adjustment. I have had a go, what do you think? Have I been too brutal with it? Link below.


Hi redmal - yep I get your point on the passports.  It would be more useful with them side by side with a gap in between or two separate images. I guess I see the link because of my life, however it is pretty slim chance finding a load of buyers like me.  Thanks for the complement on the clamp image - some dollar one have been approved today, and another euro one (I am waiting on some pound ones).  I have had a rego at the image doing the curves adjustment reccommended and also reduced the noise.  Any better?


http://a7.vox.com/6a00e398be8445000400fa96802fbf0002-pi


Thanks guys I always appreciate the help, regards jo
jsnover
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Posted Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:07PM
You need to mask your adjustments as you've made the shadows too dark (on the inside of the clamp and the shadow on the white surface), but you're heading in the right direction.
RASimon
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Posted Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:10PM
I think the lighting rejection is probably not the most accurate reason for rejection.  To my eye, and I'm NOT an inspector, it is really about colors being dull and flat.  I agree with others - a curves or levels adjustment would probably fix that in a heartbeat.
lostinbids
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Posted Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:56PM

How am I getting on? 


I used the same adjustment as last time but instead of applying it to the whole image I painted the new curve on to the clamp (but not the inside) and the note in NX (those editable NEFs are quite handy).


Here's the link http://a4.vox.com/6a00e398be8445000400fad692699c0005-pi


Thanks Jo
hatman12
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Posted Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:18PM

Forget this one Jo - the viewer's eye is drawn to the focal point of the image which is the Euro notes but they are out of focus.  Not a good stock photograph.


For the passports one, a Zimbabwe passport is very unlikely to sell, and coupled with a UK passport the combination simply isn't worth spending time on.  I suggest you photograph the passports separately making sure you get good color depth.
lostinbids
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Posted Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:35PM

Thanks Hatman, it was going to be reshot tomorrow so i will bare that in mind.  I guess the point of focus should be the numbers and the word euro. While I am at it I'll turn them the right way up too.  I think I'll shot it a bit futher away to get a bit more DOF too and crop out the excess white space.


I have to ask what is you secret to noise free images (am I right thinking you shoot jpeg).  Obviously you concentrate on exposure, but do you use custom WB too?


Thanks jo
jsnover
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Posted Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:41PM
Posted By lostinbids:

I have to ask what is you secret to noise free images (am I right thinking you shoot jpeg). 


Light.


You need to get enough light into the shadow areas that when you expose correctly for the main parts of the picture you do not get a bunch of noise from underexposed shadows. This applies to RAW or JPEG shooting. You can bring out shadow detail via a RAW converter, but if the shadow areas were seriously underexposed, they'll be noisy.


This is all assuming the lowest ISO your camera can do and a decent camera...
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