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sylvanworksCLOSED
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Posted Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:07AM

Posted By sakaasa:
I upgraded from Lightroom 1.4 to the new Lightroom 2, but LR seems to be having problems with my files (25MB) if I ingest a folder with many images. I have no idea what the problem is but it appears as if LR is working very hard in the background. Is it right that large RAW files can make LR choke? I started a new database for LR2.


Hmmm ... I've not encountered anyone with that problem. I upgraded a 1.4.1 catalog of over 30,000 photos without problem. Although I don't have raw photos over 25 MB, but I have plenty of other files over that size.

Lightroom generates previews in the background, but it does this for all types of photos, not just raw. Try importing and setting Initial Previews to Minimal and see if that makes any difference right after import. If that goes OK, then select all the newly imported photos and go to Library > Previews > Render 1:1 previews. Lightroom will then chug away rendering the full size previews of all selected photos.

Make sure you have ample free space on the drive where the catalog resides.
nickredman
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Posted Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:22AM

Installed last night. Looking good.


There is a cheeky little bug though - can't edit in CS3 directly from LR2. It opens Photoshop, but the image doesn't load and you get an error 30secs later saying it couldn't open Photoshop.


The workaround currently is to also set CS3 as the second editor choice in prefs - this works ok. This was on my Windows XP machine btw. Might be ok on Mac.


And you do need to update to ACR 4.5 before all of this as well.
nano
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Posted Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:08AM
I have ACR 4.5 installed now. It did take some time to use new catalog and generate the previews and it did slow it down considerably.
I did dl the beta but was hesitant to work in it. Some awesome new features in this release. Kelbytraining.com has new training modules on v2.
sylvanworksCLOSED
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Posted Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:01AM

Posted By nickredman:

There is a cheeky little bug though - can't edit in CS3 directly from LR2. It opens Photoshop, but the image doesn't load and you get an error 30secs later saying it couldn't open Photoshop.



It seems to always be the case that when an app hits the wider public distribution a few bugs pop out. I've been running the release version for a couple of weeks on both OS X and XP SP2 and haven't encountered any problems and can't reproduce that bug.
nickredman
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Posted Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:47AM

I've probably got the exact weird combination of system and software that you need to reproduce the bug! Would be typical for me. Not bothered really, as the workaround is fine. Found the solution on an adobe forum yesterday.


Works fine on my Mac btw.
Kativ
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Posted Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:30AM
Running 64bit version in vista 64, where 1.4 LR would crash occationally all of a sudden, 2.0 version seems to work like a charm. I'm using trial version right now, but will definetely order upgrade. Exporting 25000 image catalog from LR 1.4 took about 4 hours. Not sure what I did in the setting, but I think it made a backup files as well. All I wanted was to export 1.4 catalog info.
sakaasa
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Posted Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:44PM

Posted By sylvanworks:

Posted By sakaasa:
I upgraded from Lightroom 1.4 to the new Lightroom 2, but LR seems to be having problems with my files (25MB) if I ingest a folder with many images. I have no idea what the problem is but it appears as if LR is working very hard in the background. Is it right that large RAW files can make LR choke? I started a new database for LR2.


Hmmm ... I've not encountered anyone with that problem. I upgraded a 1.4.1 catalog of over 30,000 photos without problem. Although I don't have raw photos over 25 MB, but I have plenty of other files over that size.

Lightroom generates previews in the background, but it does this for all types of photos, not just raw. Try importing and setting Initial Previews to Minimal and see if that makes any difference right after import. If that goes OK, then select all the newly imported photos and go to Library > Previews > Render 1:1 previews. Lightroom will then chug away rendering the full size previews of all selected photos.

Make sure you have ample free space on the drive where the catalog resides.


Rob, I have over a terabyte of space, so I think that should do. I did import with minimum size previews - which btw, seem to be the jpg preview in the raw file? The NEF files from my D3 are 14-bit uncompressed RAW and 24,3 MB. They seem to choke LR2. I only managed to upload from 4GB cards. The 8GB never completed. If I use Photo Mechanic to ingest, the upload goes fast and problem free, so I am surprised that LR2 is having a problem.

I use LR 1.4 for DAM, exporting and printing. I have now upgraded to LR2, but I need to be sure it doesn't have any teething problems before I let LR2 convert my catalogs, so any help is appreciated (even if it isn't my first choice for raw conversion).
f00sion
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Posted Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:13PM
converted everyhing to lr2 and it seems much better so far... the only problem is when I export my files not all the keywords are included.  In the keyword tags section they are all there but when I pull the dropdown and go to "Will Export" only a couple are listed.. it's driving me nuts, anyone have any idea why it won't export all my keywords?
bunhill
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Posted Fri Aug 1, 2008 2:40AM
@Kelvin et al

IMO the new beta profiles which Rob linked too (thanks) absolutely solve the shadow detail degradation (blotchy blacks) which you, me and a few others have previously moaned about here.

Camera Faithful (for example) is just like Canon Faithful*. Although - 9/10x I think the first thing I will do [after setting the sharpening and color noise reduction to zero] will be to set the black slider to zero too. Still. That default 5 still doesn't make sense IMO.

* so far I've only tried it with 5D files - not yet with 20D files
sylvanworksCLOSED
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Posted Fri Aug 1, 2008 7:00AM

Posted By f00sion:
converted everyhing to lr2 and it seems much better so far... the only problem is when I export my files not all the keywords are included.  In the keyword tags section they are all there but when I pull the dropdown and go to "Will Export" only a couple are listed.. it's driving me nuts, anyone have any idea why it won't export all my keywords?


Bug.

They hope to release a script soon that will correct the issue.
kelvinjay
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Posted Fri Aug 1, 2008 7:39AM
Posted By bunhill:
@Kelvin et al

IMO the new beta profiles which Rob linked too (thanks) absolutely solve the shadow detail degradation (blotchy blacks) which you, me and a few others have previously moaned about here.

Camera Faithful (for example) is just like Canon Faithful*. Although - 9/10x I think the first thing I will do [after setting the sharpening and color noise reduction to zero] will be to set the black slider to zero too. Still. That default 5 still doesn't make sense IMO.

* so far I've only tried it with 5D files - not yet with 20D files


 


That's interesting. I also found that the problem I had was because the default black level was set at 5. If I turned it down to zero and then later corrected the levels in CS3 then things looked much better.
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Posted Sun Aug 3, 2008 8:59AM

My quictake regarding Canon's DPP vs. the new ACR 4.5 with Canon camera profiles is that using the profiles seems to help in terms of rendering blacks/"near blacks". I tried a couple of files with the "standard" setting. The ACR 4.5 w/"Standard Canon profile" does seem to do a better job (than ACR without Canon profiles) on noise and junk in very dark/black parts of the image. ACR seems to generate noticeably more contrast and color saturation than DPP. One would really have to play with a lot of files for an accurate evaluation. Just playing with 2 or 3, I would say that this is a significant step in the right direction.


What have others found?
bunhill
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Posted Mon Aug 4, 2008 6:31AM

Posted By kelvinjay:
That's interesting. I also found that the problem I had was because the default black level was set at 5. If I turned it down to zero and then later corrected the levels in CS3 then things looked much better.


Or you could use the tone curve adjustment tool within Lightroom. My sense of that is that it offers more control than PS levels adjustment window ..... but is slightly easier to use that the PS curve adjustment windows.

Although - how often do we really want a pure black ? That isn't a rhetorical question. Certainly we don't want speckles of pure black in the shadow detail.

I think. Er.
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Posted Tue Aug 5, 2008 10:10PM
I'm trying the trial, working with the D700 14bit raw files it tends to crash quite often, and after about thirty minutes of use gives a out of memory error.

I love the highlight recovery slider, i've managed to rescue quite a few blown files with it, but overall I think I'm going to go with Capture NX 2 instead.
nano
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Posted Thu Aug 7, 2008 12:26PM
Apparently, I've discovered a problem and bug in LR2 when I go to open the image in PSCS3 after working on the image in LR2. Normally, I just hit Command E (Mac) and the image opens in PS.

I've torn my hair out all morning over this. There's a workaround in the posts in the LR forums. A couple of things to try.

Preferences for LR. External>editing> 2 menus stacked.
Set 2nd one for PS (I already have 1st one set to PSCS3).

I use the ProPhoto color space profile, 16 bit, resolution 300. Set to use File Format: PSD. I used tiff on the 2nd menu set.

Also, I did the workaround set to 8 bit at first then change back to 16 bit.

ETA: Mac OSX 10.4.11, PSCS3 10.0.1, LR2

(Edited on 2008-08-07 12:28:27 by nano)
Kativ
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Posted Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:34AM

Under the WEB menu >> Airtight PostcardViewer - Are we limited to 200 images maximum? I have a filmstrip that are made up of 400 images, but looks like it only shows maximum of 200 images. Is it because it's a FREE demo version?
sylvanworksCLOSED
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Posted Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:24AM
No, each gallery type has its own limit. The one with the largest max number is the HTML gallery.
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