Firefox 3.5 color all messed up

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kelvinjay
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Posted Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:34AM
I just updated my Firefox to 3.5 and now all the images look awful. In the previous version (3.1) the colour management was turned OFF by default. I had colour management turned ON, and everything looked fine.

But the new FF 3.5 has color management turned ON by default and everything looks dark and nasty.

Here's a comparison between how FF 3.5 & IE8 shows an image:
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I can't believe how bad this looks.

You can however turn the colour management off as a temporary solution:

Go to address bar and type:

about:config

Type: gfx into the filter box

Click on gfx.color_management.mode

Change the 2 to 0

Restart Firefox 3.5 and the colour management is now turned off.


Hopefully the Firefox people will fix this before too many people are turned off from buying our shots here because they all look so terrible.

(Edited on 2009-07-15 09:51:56 by kelvinjay)
bunhill
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Posted Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:56PM
Maybe I'm missing the point but why would switching color management off be a good thing?

ETA: I'm wondering whether this is a Windows only issue because images in Firefox and Safari seem to look the same (still) on my Macbook.

(Edited on 2009-07-15 17:05:07 by bunhill)
kelvinjay
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Posted Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:10PM
Posted By bunhill:
Maybe I'm missing the point but why would switching color management off be a good thing?



I had to switch off the colour management as a temporary measure to stop it screwing up the images and making them look like the images on the left i.e far too dark. With it switched off, they look like the ones on the right, that is, basically looking right or normal.


The odd things is that this only seems to be noticeable on my desktop machine - my laptop didn't produce the darker images when I upgraded to FF3.5. Maybe it's dependent on the monitor profile used. I dunno, all I do know is that the previous version worked much better.
bunhill
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Posted Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:27PM
So I did some Googling. Apparently Firefox 3.5 does not recognize ICC V4 profiles.

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.5/releasenotes/

Firefox 3.5 will only support color profiles as specified by ICC v2, later versions will add support for ICC v4 (see bug 463221)
kelvinjay
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Posted Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:09PM

Cool - thanks for that - I have no idea what it means, but sounds like it's going to ge fixed


 
bunhill
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Posted Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:08AM

Posted By kelvinjay:
sounds like it's going to get fixed :)


One day.
Difydave
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Posted Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:20AM

Do I remember you saying you're running Vista 64? A quick Google (which you've probably already done yourself) says that Vista 64 uses v4 ICC profiles.


The answer is obviously to go back to Windows 3.11!
bunhill
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Posted Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:24PM
The interesting thing about a problem like this IMO is that we learn a bit more at each stage. This time yesterday I didn't know that ICC profiles could even be V2 or V4
kelvinjay
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Posted Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:05PM
Posted By bunhill:
The interesting thing about a problem like this IMO is that we learn a bit more at each stage. This time yesterday I didn't know that ICC profiles could even be V2 or V4 smile



That's an interesting use of the word interesting.


The thing is, at no time in the past 35 yrs have I felt that my life is lacking through my general ignorance of the technical aspects of ICC profiles V2 and V4. And now that I've been forced to learn of their existence, my life doesn't feel that much richer. Perhaps I'm just failing to see the beauty in their differences. If knowledge is power, then I think this measures about 1 milliwatt. But I'm very grateful for your help & advice.


smile

(Edited on 2009-07-16 15:22:13 by kelvinjay)
bunhill
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Posted Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:44PM
3.5.1 is out but the issue isn't fixed according to the notes. It still says:

Firefox 3.5 will only support color profiles as specified by ICC v2, later versions will add support for ICC v4 (see bug 463221)
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Posted Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:26AM
man i came back from vacation yesterday, updatet firefox and all looks so red hahahaa nasty.
kelvinjay
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Posted Wed Aug 5, 2009 2:16PM
This ICC v4 issue now seems to have been fixed in Fireifox 3.5.2


I just turned colour management back on and it all looks great and not dark & nasty. smile

(Edited on 2009-08-05 14:23:22 by kelvinjay)
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Posted Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:46PM
I just updated to 3.5.2 the other day and the colors were all gray/redish looking. I applied your fix and they look normal now. Thank you. My world is again in balance.
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